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AttackSheep
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:40 pm
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I've got two examples I'll use, if you don't want to know which manga I'm talking about, in terms of drama, go the first spoiler tab contains the names, the second and third are for a each of the examples. Just skip to the end if you don't want to know the names, it explains my complaints.
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Unbalanced X Unbalanced and Dance in the Vampire Bund
Example 1
I was never really a fan of Unbalanced x2, bet kept up with it. And just recently it seems like it's back in action from a rather lengthy break. But as the title suggests, I think the manga is just turning into garbage. After reading the latest volume and chapters, it just seems like it's beyond too much. Every single time they close one dramatic scenario another just pops up like candy, it's just kinda ridiculous to me that the author would be so poor at writing a plot O.o If it's not a physical hardship, it's a women getting in the way of a relationship filled with misunderstandings. If it's not a women, it's an emotional twist that renders one or more person(s) in a disintegrated state.
Example 2
Dance in the Vampire Bund I found rather interesting, but much like I mentioned above their seems to be people getting slaughtered left and right, joy and happiness is literally being sucked out of every chapter by the writer. When you think they surpassed one major challenge and obtained some joy, however brief it is, another horrendous mistake jumps out at them and slaps them in the face.
Yes, I am an American and yes I do enjoy everyone living happily ever after (Mai Otome/Hime (I was hating the anime Mai Hime up until the end)) in blissful joy. Partly because I'm in EMS and death is a constant.
I do enjoy a bit of drama, it's not like I love having everyone survive with no hardships, because that would be boring. But with some of the latest manga I've been reading lately... Especially the two mentioned above, it seems like writers are leaning towards becoming dramatic blacksmiths. I mean that in the sense that they're constantly pounding the manga with drama in every nook they can possibly smash it in, forging a dramatically sharp blade and then sticking it into the reader's heart.
Ok I was being a bit dramatic (Ha...) in that description above, but in a sense that's what I feel I'm reading. Anyone agree with me? I mean, what do you guys and gals consider as too 'much' drama? For me it's when there is a new problem poorly spaced and just feels like you're getting hit wave after wave of problems.
For those of you who wish to post, please use Example One and Two if you wish to relate and use blunt references to the manga themselves. I personally loath spoilers, so I'll try and keep you guys/gals safe =P
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EireformContinent
Joined: 30 May 2009
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Location: Łódź/Poland (The Promised Land)
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:10 am
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I haven't read any of them, but I agree that less is more. Throwing strong emotions in every page is an art that can be done just be geniuses (Tezuka- Ode od Kirohito, Ikeda- Oniisama E), but even they remember to turn on a light that won't leave reader with feeling that everything was a waste.
It can be clearly shown in Tem Medical Dragon- too much cases. Every problem is presented by 2-3 patients that can be differ just by various names. How are we supposed to take care of pure names?
Say Hello to Black Jack deals with it better- here we have one patient with one disease and we can get used to him and get involved emotionally (unfortunately, everything is spoiled by tears and snots of the main protagonist who while being a doctor behaves like student on summer practices)
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vashna
Joined: 19 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:29 pm
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I lament the same concept. While I deeply admire the work of those who aren't afraid to kill off a hero to show to that sometimes tragedy awaits the best of us, I am always bothered when it seems that at the end of a manga or anime the entire series felt as though it were a sad waste of life. I'm thinking, say, Roy Focker in the Super Dimension Fortress Macross, as an example of this sort of drama used correctly.
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NakamuraYumeko
Joined: 15 Mar 2011
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Location: Southern Cali
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:19 am
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Agreed, I love manga, but many a series can be bursting with one drama after another, but I can see why manga-ka would employ this... while it can be a little irritating to have our heroine and hero get together like we hoped, just to have a new girl come between them, the hero of the story always needs a villian or problem to complicate their lives... slice of life manga is really good if you don't always want to deal with constant drama, I like Yotsuba myself.
I really love Sand Chronicles, but it was chock full of drama lol.
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vashna
Joined: 19 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:57 am
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I actually often have this problem with works created by fans, and fandom roleplays of various series. More often than not, fans will take a manga that didn't have much drama to begin with and throw a great deal more on it. Even a series like Lucky Star will get introduced to a plot line that doesn't fit in it. I understand that fans are very interested in the back-stories and deeper thoughts of their favorite characters, but some series aren't meant to have hard hitting storylines.
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