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EireformContinent



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Last Answerman brought up the topic of popularity of classical titles. IMHO there's no better way to raise awareness of classics than discuss it I made this topic dedicated to our beloved Father of the Manga (and Anime too).

Do you know who Tezuka was? How did you know his works? What are your favourites/least favourites of them? Do you agree with points he made in his works, or do you find them naive? Too sophisticated? Outdated? Which ones do you want to be released? Do you think they could have a chance? What do you find good, bad and annoying in his works?

It's a shame that so old lady like myself come across Tezuka so late. I knew about him, but I've started reading his works last year, after long rant that I can't find any good medical manga. Someone recommended me Black Jack to shut me up. Sorry for focusing on the manga and only two of many themes described by Tezuka, but they are the closest to my heart.

I'm still not finished with him (I don't even want to remember how much money did I dumped into BJ manga), but I can say that Black Jack is and will be my favourite manga character forever. Probably that's the best creation of fictional doctor ever. Or maybe better- doctor's projection. Black Jack is doctor's daydream. Genius not bounded by typical paperwork and procedures, moving freely, having just interesting cases, begged to operate.

It's clear that Tezuka put here all his student's hopes and dreams, but also fears. Black Jack like every doctor has problems with the fact that he isn't omnipotent. When he fails he is free to unleash all emotions that in normal practice must be hidden. Even if the years had passed, most of the problems described in short stories are still actual.
Despite showing medicine procedured just a bit too strange for reality Tezuka managed to keep his work as reliable as it's possible for short stories based on strange medical accidents.
There's just one flaw that people usually don't notice- Black Jack is terrible authoritarian. Once you ask him for help he will take all your free will. Next flaw of genius or matter of the time? In 70s it was acceptable, the idea that patient should always have the last world is pretty new. It was fixed a bit in 90s OVA- besides the movies the only good attempt to bring BJ to silver screen.
It's told that Tezuka till hid dead hadn't let anyone to draw Black Jack. Seeing 2004 anime series I know why.

While Black Jack balances between drama and humour Ode to Kirohito is one big anvil of pessimism. I hate it. I completely hate it for shouting out things that shouldn't be named. For reminding all the doctors, that without their toolboxes and drugs they can just helplessly wave their hands in horror. I won't ever come back to it, because every scene is kept in my mind. Sad series about lowest of humans instincts, our prejudices and one bit of hope that is left, but not for everyone. That's a rare thing that author can describe different ways of life, without favouring any of them. I was especially shocked that he as a Buddhist could describe Christian's doctrine with such and empathy.

For cheering up I recommend Fuusuke. No sadness included, just short, funny stories about sex. First one involving cute penis walking around like a puppy. No obscene or bad taste included.
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naninanino



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:13 pm Reply with quote
Yes, I know who he is. I don't read manga though, so the only touch to his works is through anime. So far I've only watched the old Hi no Tori movies. Trilogy of sorts I guess. It was pretty interesting, philosophical, nihilistic and even scary. Definitely stood out from the bunch. I've been meaning to watch Black Jack too, when I get around to it, and hope to see the Buddha movie someday too.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:32 pm Reply with quote
I own MW and a single volume of Black Jack. I rather enjoy Tezuka's work. He was an especially strong influence on my favorite mangaka, Naoki Urasawa.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:49 pm Reply with quote
Black Jack is probably my favorite. Phoenix isn't bad, but it can get a bit old I suppose given the storytelling nature.
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yamata no orochi



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:14 pm Reply with quote
Buddha's probably the one Tezuka manga I've read in its entirety. Absolutely loved it, though! Was funny and sad and horrifying and occasionally profound. Incredibly brutal, too. Felt sorry for nearly everybody, even the so-called antagonists.

Only read the second volume of Phoenix, but liked it a lot--and I've heard that it isn't the best volume, either! So I might come around to reading the rest eventually. I haven't read as much of Blackjack, but any series in which the main character is forced to operate on his own intestines in the Australian Outback while surrounded by wild dingoes deserves points in my book.
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Anymouse



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:28 pm Reply with quote
Read a little bit of Buddha. He seems to follow thew story quite well. I can see that he like everyone else was influenced by the Invasion Theory of Indian History.
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Tris8



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:04 pm Reply with quote
Yep, I know about Osamu Tezuka from reading articles here on ANN. I haven't read any of his manga, but I've heard of Astro Boy and seen many of his anime shorts. His anime shorts are really good. Jumping is probably my favorite out of all of them, but Broken Down Film is hilarious and Mermaid thought-evoking. Most of his shorts with messages don't know the meaning of subtle, but they are still good food for thought.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:28 pm Reply with quote
Yes, I've heard of him, and have seen a few of his works. Black Jack is the only one of his works I've watched that I really like though. Some of his characters were beaten severely at some point with the Ugly Stick and deformed though. I can't say I'm a fan of his character designs. Anime smallmouth
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Rick Dom



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:50 pm Reply with quote
Its a regret that I haven't read more of Tezuka's works, though I've watched a number of anime adaptations. Its funny that despite being the "father of manga" he is still one of the most moral voices in that artform.
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