Forum - View topicHistory of Saban: Part 3
|
Goto page 1, 2 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
|
MFrontier
Posts: 15064 |
|
|||
|
I still remember growing up and experiencing the transition to ABC Kids and the Disney era Power Rangers show.
Shinzo mention! Shuki Levy sounds like a real piece of work. I think I've seen some people online talk about actually first experiencing Precure through Glitter Force. I think the movie had its heart in the right place but lost sight of what it was adapting to a degree. The didn't need to so dramatically redesign the suits and Megazarod, CG Putty's weren't great, and we barely got to see the team in their suits before the Zords showed up. |
||||
|
||||
|
ReNellGlover
Posts: 125 |
|
|||
|
Disney would continue to make seasons of Power Rangers, moving production from Los Angeles to New Zealand for the next series Power Rangers Ninja Storm and continued producing seasons of the series until 2010. They would also continue to produce dubs of the next two Digimon series Frontier and Fusion,
Technically, Disney stopped producing new seasons of PR in 2009; they also actually did Data Squad, not Fusion. Saban Brands would also create a new programming block, Vortexx, to replace the previous The CW programming block after the bankruptcy of 4Kids Entertainment. This programming block would mostly feature reruns of animated programs and anime series picked up from 4Kids, like Yu-Gi-Oh!, Dragon Ball Z Kai, and Sonic X. Saban would return to dubbing anime by bringing over Digimon Xros Wars in 2014 under the title Digimon Fusion. Technically, Nicktoons aired DBZ Kai before the CW did, and Digimon Fusion premiered on Nickelodeon in 2013 before moving to Nicktoons later that year before briefly airing on the CW. |
||||
|
||||
|
FinalVentCard
ANN Reviewer
 Posts: 701 |
|
|||
|
Every time I read about what Shuki Levi did or the Saban's wheelings and dealings with Power Rangers, it turns my stomach. Also, his ownership of Univision was just plain weird; I feel like this was something I heard of when I was younger, but I can't remember. One shudders to think of the history behind Don Francisco...
|
||||
|
||||
|
YagamiBlackstone255
Posts: 263 |
|
|||
|
As much as I utterly despise Glitter Force, it was VERY popular with kids, many are the comments that Glitter Force was their childhood, their first anime or the first time they drew any cartoon characters. The problem with Glitter Force is that it simply monetized through streaming and cancelled the insane amounts of merch needed to make the show viable, and it was never going to be a hit on streaming with the amount of insulting edits and changes done to the show. Streaming offers uncut Sailor Moon and other uncut anime, why not watch those?
This is why I hope the relaunch Toei is planning takes off and is fully uncut, without a divided fanbase, the show has a way bigger chance of actually succeeding. |
||||
|
||||
|
Custom Apex
Posts: 175 |
|
|||
|
As for this this era: I do remember the whole FOX Family become ABC Family during my middle school years. I do enjoyed the Disney Era of Power Rangers like SPD and RPM, I only saw a few episodes of Digimon Data Squad on Jetix along with Jungle Fury.
Once PR was back after Saban got it in 2010 as the first show of the Neo Saban Era, Samurai came out the next year, I didn't bother with it, in fact, I skipped the entirely of the Neo Saban Era of PR and came back with Beast Morphers on Netflix. As much as I hate to admit, the whole Glitter Force duology got me into PreCure or at least make me aware of the franchise's existence. I did saw the Power Rangers (2017) movie and it was OK, just wish it could have done better at the box office. This era of Saban during the 2010s is one of the most average eras I have seen on television. Decent stuff but nothing stood out to me. |
||||
|
||||
|
Aresef
Posts: 921 Location: MD |
|
|||
|
Like Carl Macek and Peter Fernandez, he played a critical role in bringing Japanese material to the states and making it palatable and marketable. He one-red-paperclipped his way to billions and on some level you kind of have to respect the hustle, even if the person himself is an absolute monster.
Thank you for including Sarah Brown's story. She used to have a website that included all kinds of documentation, depositions etc. She says people should boycott PR and I get it but it's not like Shuki Levy gets a dime of it now. |
||||
|
||||
NJ_
 Posts: 3163 Location: Wallington, NJ |
|
|||
It was released in 2015 but there was news about this going back to 2013. https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/forum/anime-manga-discussions/us-blu-ray-dvd-and-simulcast-industry-news/21618-saban-brands-has-glitter-force-smile-pretty-cure#post21618 Originally was going to be known as Gangnam Girls, this was believed to have been part of a package deal when they got Digimon back in 2012 so they got Smile when it was still new. |
||||
|
||||
kgw
 Posts: 1234 Location: Spain, EU |
|
|||
|
First, thank you for this documentary series.
Second, I think the history of Saban is one I (we) older otakus have seen many times: the tale of enterprises that are born doing a very specific thing, when Japanese animation (or mostly animation in general) was hard to reach, always under second's or third parties' control. Someone bought the international rights*, who then sold the production to a local distributor with close to zero supervision from Japan. Or scripts; if anything, something like a vague summary/adaptation in not Oxford English**. When land broadcasters or satellite channels needed content for they schedules, they thrive, but when the need was gone (Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, etc. disappear), Internet boomed and the Japanese industry started to care about overseas distribution, they were doomed. But they still insisted on playing their own tricks in a world that simply they didn't understand. * And that's why we have the Macross quagmire. ** Source: I did read some of them with my own eyes. Last edited by kgw on Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:46 am; edited 1 time in total |
||||
|
||||
Takkun4343
 Posts: 1616 Location: Englewood, Ohio |
|
|||
|
Despite their wide reach, I was never really into Saban shows when I was younger; I was a 4Kids kid all the way, even as I was whetting my palate through Toonami and [as]. I did watch an episode of Digimon Tamers once, found it neat that their mons, unlike Pokemon's, were capable of human speech across the board and had evolutions that weren't permanent, but that wasn't enough to get me interested in checking out more, apparently.
Across all the good and bad over the years, especially the bad (what the hell, Levy?), my all-time favorite Saban story would have to be when Haim was in talks to get KISS themselves involved with a KISS anime and had the guts to tell his business partner how they were gonna "gut him like a fish" in front of the band members, thinking he could get away with it since he said it in Hebrew... not knowing that Gene Simmons, who's Israeli himself, understood everything he said. "You assh*le, I am one of you!", he shouted back in his native language, and like that, the deal fell through. |
||||
|
||||
StarFan13
 Posts: 363 |
|
|||
|
have read all the parts of the History of Saban in ANN, but didn't find any Mention about Saban Moon.
|
||||
|
||||
mdo7
 Posts: 6934 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
|
|||
That's because that company is not involved with that American live-action/animation Sailor Moon pilot. Fans were calling it Saban Moon because of the way it looked like Power Rangers, but Saban had no involvement in that production or the making of it. Although, by odd coincidence, Renaissance-Atlantic Entertainment (the company that produced it) was involved with some Saban products, but Saban wasn't involved with Sailor Moon at all. The name "Saban Moon" was coined by fans, and not involving Saban at all. |
||||
|
||||
Primus
 Posts: 2847 Location: Toronto |
|
|||
Contrary to the fan moniker, they seemingly weren't involved with that. The confusion stems from Renaissance-Atlantic, who commissioned that pilot on behalf of Bandai. RA was a co-producer on Power Rangers, Masked Rider and a few other projects. This series of articles didn't touch on everything Saban produced, so a pilot doesn't seem like something that demands coverage anyway. Otherwise, I'd ask where's my Cyborg Kuro-chan (or, "Ninth Life Of Kazz The Cybercat") coverage. |
||||
|
||||
|
mdo7
Posts: 6934 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
|
|||
As I said, Saban had no involvement with Sailor Moon including that American animated/live-action hybrid pilot nor the DiC dub. |
||||
|
||||
Piglet the Grate
 Posts: 1041 Location: North America |
|
|||
"Never ask a rich person how they made their first million." - Trad. |
||||
|
||||
|
GoGoGoFalco
Posts: 18 |
|
|||
Unless Power Rangers was previously released in HD I don't think an upscaled release is unnecessary at all. |
||||
|
||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group