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lemurs



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:38 pm Reply with quote
I've been rather fond of the 3DCG ship animation on these from the start simply because they're animated with a proper sense of scale and mass. Like when a ship gets hit by artillery fire and gets knocked back for a moment before exploding, it feels like a big heavy thing reacting to a violent impact. Constrast them to something like more recent Macross entries, whose Valkyries are often guilty of zipping around like ships in a video game instead of big heavy fighter planes.
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kamisu66



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Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.
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John Thacker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Wait, "more fan service than the original?" Sure you're not forgetting about OG Analyzer sexually harassing Yuki on multiple occasions and revealing her panties? They didn't have that in 2199.
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Greboruri



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:28 pm Reply with quote
John Thacker wrote:
Wait, "more fan service than the original?" Sure you're not forgetting about OG Analyzer sexually harassing Yuki on multiple occasions and revealing her panties? They didn't have that in 2199.

This is what I was about to say. In addition in the original 1974 TV series, in the episode the first time the Yamato warped, Yuki's clothes vanished momentarily. In addition the cheesecake shots in Yamato 2199 are quite tame and brief.
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Yamato4life1999



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:03 pm Reply with quote
Nice Review aside from the fanservice critique because I think the fanservice in the original was actually more crazier. I get it a A+ and it’s my favorite reboot anime of all time. I like it more than even the original. One of the positive things I would say as well are the female characters. To me they’re the best part of the show. Don’t get me wrong I really like the male characters as well. My favorite character is Akira Yamamoto! I wish they did better with 2202 but I still love it. I would really love to see a Akira spin off series and have Melda in it as well.

kamisu66 wrote:
Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.


Yes I agree. I wish the Yamato Reboot was more popular. It’s my favorite reboot show of all time (I even love it more than the original version). I also love the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes as well. I’m definitely looking forward to Anno’s Yamato but honestly, I would rather see a spin off sequel to 3199 with Akira Yamamoto as the main character with Melda Dietz as her partner. That’s just me.

lemurs wrote:
I've been rather fond of the 3DCG ship animation on these from the start simply because they're animated with a proper sense of scale and mass. Like when a ship gets hit by artillery fire and gets knocked back for a moment before exploding, it feels like a big heavy thing reacting to a violent impact. Constrast them to something like more recent Macross entries, whose Valkyries are often guilty of zipping around like ships in a video game instead of big heavy fighter planes.


That’s what I thought as well. I love it!

Greboruri wrote:
John Thacker wrote:
Wait, "more fan service than the original?" Sure you're not forgetting about OG Analyzer sexually harassing Yuki on multiple occasions and revealing her panties? They didn't have that in 2199.

This is what I was about to say. In addition in the original 1974 TV series, in the episode the first time the Yamato warped, Yuki's clothes vanished momentarily. In addition the cheesecake shots in Yamato 2199 are quite tame and brief.


Yes and the female characters are WAY better in the reboot as well. To me they’re the best part of the show. Overall I think the reboot is better for the character development, writing, action, backstories etc etc etc.
My favorite 3 characters in the franchise are Akira Yamamoto (remake version), Kaoru Niimi and Melda Dietz
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Yamato4life1999 wrote:
Yes and the female characters are WAY better in the reboot as well. To me they’re the best part of the show. Overall I think the reboot is better for the character development, writing, action, backstories etc etc etc.

I think it was Noboru Ishiguro who said there were far more female crew members at the beginning of the series (who may of appeared in the background?) but somehow it got reduced down to Yuki Mori somewhere along the line. I too really like the new female crew additions as well. And they aren't just shoved into the plot to sell bishoujo figures, something I fear before watching 2199.
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Yamato4life1999



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Greboruri wrote:
Yamato4life1999 wrote:
Yes and the female characters are WAY better in the reboot as well. To me they’re the best part of the show. Overall I think the reboot is better for the character development, writing, action, backstories etc etc etc.

I think it was Noboru Ishiguro who said there were far more female crew members at the beginning of the series (who may of appeared in the background?) but somehow it got reduced down to Yuki Mori somewhere along the line. I too really like the new female crew additions as well. And they aren't just shoved into the plot to sell bishoujo figures, something I fear before watching 2199.


Exactly. Yuki in the original was the only female character that had all the attention.
I think if Yutaka Izubuchi would’ve directed 2202, it would’ve been just as good if not probably better than 2199. I still love 2202. 2205 (despite being short) to me is great. 3199 (so far) it’s the second best season I just really hope they don’t kill off Akira AT ALL. Akira Yamamoto(reboot version) to me is the best character in the franchise. I really want to see a spin off series of her as the main character. I like the chemistry that she had with Klaus Keyman in 2202 but I prefer her chemistry with Melda Dietz. I really like the red suit she’s been wearing since 2202. It makes her super cool and badass. The only thing I didn’t like what they did to Akira aside from giving her less screen time ever since 2202 and drag on with the love triangle between her, Yuki and Kodai, is that spoiler[ in episode 12 of 2202, Akira was beating up pretty badly by Touko Katsuragi and got thrown on to Klaus Keyman leaving her unconscious. They need to make her to do better in Hand to Hand combat even though she did pretty well with the mutiny in the middle of season 1.] That’s one of the reasons why I want Akira to have a spin off. Not to mention, I always do references with the female characters in Yamato.
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ScruffyKiwi



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:25 pm Reply with quote
kamisu66 wrote:
Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.


Add me to the list of someone who would love to see Crest of the Stars reboot! There is a new manga which I think is doing a pretty good job. If they take the designs from that it would be awesome!
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Yamato4life1999



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:32 pm Reply with quote
ScruffyKiwi wrote:
kamisu66 wrote:
Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.


Add me to the list of someone who would love to see Crest of the Stars reboot! There is a new manga which I think is doing a pretty good job. If they take the designs from that it would be awesome!


Oh yeah! I forgot! Crest of the stars was underrated! I would love to see a reboot of it as well. I hope it gets a proper adaptation. I also want to see Captain Harlock getting a reboot.

Also correct if I’m wrong but I think part of the reason why the original version had very few female characters were budget reasons which is also the reason why it was 26 episodes each instead of 52 which also scrapped Captain Harlock to be appeared in the original Yamato as well. Another reason why is that Leiji Matsumoto wants to gearing towards the male demographic. When it first aired in 1974, surprisingly the majority of the fanbase that send Leiji fan letters and fanarts were females at the time.
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The Scream Man



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:36 pm Reply with quote
Yamato 2199 is one of my top 5 all time favorite anime series. It is a flawless series to me. it's incredible.

2202 isnt as good, with one incomprehensibly bad episode (I think its 13 off the top of my head) and a bit more of a loss of the clearcut momentum of the original.

I've actually never watched 2205 and 3199. i keep meaning to get around to it but haven't. I sure rectify that.
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Fluwm



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:39 pm Reply with quote
I have nothing to add here, just chiming in to add my voice to the chorus declaring 2199 a stone-cold masterpiece.
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Yamato4life1999



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:55 pm Reply with quote
The Scream Man wrote:
Yamato 2199 is one of my top 5 all time favorite anime series. It is a flawless series to me. it's incredible.

2202 isnt as good, with one incomprehensibly bad episode (I think its 13 off the top of my head) and a bit more of a loss of the clearcut momentum of the original.

I've actually never watched 2205 and 3199. i keep meaning to get around to it but haven't. I sure rectify that.


Woohoo! It’s one of my top 5 of all time as well! 2205 and 3199 (so far) are far better than 2202. If Yutaka Izubuchi would’ve retained the director, 2202 would’ve been just as good if not probably better than 2199. My favorite characters are the females and Akira Yamamoto is number one to me(don’t get me wrong I like the male characters as well.)

Fluwm wrote:
I have nothing to add here, just chiming in to add my voice to the chorus declaring 2199 a stone-cold masterpiece.



Yeah because I’ve been waiting for someone to review the first 2 seasons as well. I just wish Yamato is more popular.
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DangerMouse



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:22 pm Reply with quote
What an absolutely amazing remake this was. Still need watch the stuff beyond 2202, maybe finally this summer.
Also, still trying to hold out hope for more blu-rays (and dubs for the next installments), love having my LE sets of 2199 and 2202.

Yamato4life1999 wrote:
The Scream Man wrote:
Yamato 2199 is one of my top 5 all time favorite anime series. It is a flawless series to me. it's incredible.

2202 isnt as good, with one incomprehensibly bad episode (I think its 13 off the top of my head) and a bit more of a loss of the clearcut momentum of the original.

I've actually never watched 2205 and 3199. i keep meaning to get around to it but haven't. I sure rectify that.


Woohoo! It’s one of my top 5 of all time as well! 2205 and 3199 (so far) are far better than 2202. If Yutaka Izubuchi would’ve retained the director, 2202 would’ve been just as good if not probably better than 2199. My favorite characters are the females and Akira Yamamoto is number one to me(don’t get me wrong I like the male characters as well.)

Hell yes.

ScruffyKiwi wrote:
kamisu66 wrote:
Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.


Add me to the list of someone who would love to see Crest of the Stars reboot! There is a new manga which I think is doing a pretty good job. If they take the designs from that it would be awesome!

Oh shit! Very cool, had no idea there was a new manga. Would be great to see a redone anime of that.
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Yamato4life1999



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:02 am Reply with quote
Here are my top 10 characters in Space Battleship Yamato
10. Miki Saijo
9. Mikage Kiryu
8. Susumu Kodai
7. Klaus Keyman
6. Yuria Misaki
5. Starsha/Yurisha Iscandar
4. Makoto Harada
3. Yuki Mori
2. Melda Dietz
1. Akira Yamamoto(Remake)/Kaoru Niimi
I watched Crest of the Stars a few years ago and it was a pretty good anime. I do think it definitely deserves a proper reboot.
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jr240483



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:04 am Reply with quote
kamisu66 wrote:
Nice to see the Yamato remakes get some love.
Part of my triumvirate of favorite anime space opera, the other 2 being Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Crest of the Stars-- the last I hope will one day get its own remake.
Anno seemingly has his hands in all the remakes of classic anime. He storyboarded the great OP to 2199.


and speaking of, ill have to disagree with the reviewer here. the yamato remakes are not the only ones that were done well.

there was also the 4 seasons of the legend of galactic heroes: die nue these which definitely knocked it out of the park with their reboot!

the only flaw was that the reboot cut out a lot of stuff from the original OVA & even the novels considering their tendencies to have one 12 ep season to cover an entire book which did not sit right with some fans since one book of LGH could easily have been a 25/26 ep season if given the budget for it!
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