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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:54 pm Reply with quote
How come Anime movies always theatricaly get limited releases!
I am mad i wanted to see Ponyo last year and couldnt becuase it was limited release. i live in michigan so we dont have alot of big cities besides Grand Rapids and Detroit but still it makes me mad Anime movies are never released fully becuase everybody wants to see them yet nobody has any faith they will do good.I was also exited for Tales From The Earthsea which comes out in Aug but yet again its limited release.it doesnt makes since when i was 5 years old i went and seen pokemon the first movie and the theater was packed out how come now they dont give the movies wide releases im sure the theaters would be packed out depending on what it is.it just makes me mad nobody gives anime a chance in the US.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:59 pm Reply with quote
I think the major reason is that it would be a stupid and expensive mistake to put anime on ever screen in the country when most showings would only sell a couple of tickets. When you have a relatively small prospective audience you need them to come to you, not the other way around.

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So, how many forums have you copy and pasted this on? ^^;
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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:01 pm Reply with quote
what do you mean how many forums?
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Maryohki



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:06 pm Reply with quote
The reason is because they wouldn't make back the money it costs to get a film into the theaters. You've sorely overestimated the anime fanbase; we really are a small audience in America. There aren't nearly enough of us to support an anime movie getting a full blown theatrical run, even if every anime fan in the country went to it. On top of that, a lot of anime fans flat out refuse to pay for anime. This includes seeing it in the theater, especially since those people also tend to hate dubs, and I guarantee it would have to run dubbed.
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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:08 pm Reply with quote
ya you have a point Maryohki its just when i was a kid in the late 1990,s i whent and seen the pokemon movies in theaters and in 2000 i seen Digimon the movie and in 04 or 05 i seen ghost in the shell 2.and the pokemon and digimons were packed out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:14 pm Reply with quote
Nobody would go to it either way other than the anime fans, and comparatively speaking there aren't enough of us, so they figure they'll lose less money by releasing it in a limited fashion. This is because people in this country can't accept the idea of sophisticated animation as a valuable entertainment source or the fact that animation can be enjoyed by people who aren't children.

Yes, it sucks.


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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:17 pm Reply with quote
Kruszer wrote:
Nobody would go to it either way other than the anime fans, and comparitively speaking there aren't enough of us, so they figure they'll lose less money by releasing it in a limited fashion.

Yes, it sucks.
i know its awful!!!people will go and see garbage romantic comedies with bad actors but wont go and see a wonderfull anime film this country is messed up in so many ways.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:19 pm Reply with quote
Hiro94 wrote:
How come Anime movies always theatricaly get limited releases!


A) They're foreign films, released either by studio micro-labels or by struggling DVD-turned-theatrical indie distributors
B) Studio micro-labels go for non-wide openings, and do journeyman openings at local arthouse theaters
C) Anime is presumed to have a limited audience even among local-arthouse foreign film fans,

and of course, and specifically to Disney's case,
D) "Princess Mononoke". Mad That one set us back ten years farther than Sony's dreary downbeat titles could ever hope to.
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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:21 pm Reply with quote
What i dont get though is when i was a kid i always went and seen anime movies and they were jammed packed!all od the pokemon movies digimon the movie and even ghost in the shell 2 was packed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:29 pm Reply with quote
Hiro94 wrote:
What i don't get though is when i was a kid i always went and seen anime movies and they were jammed packed!all od the pokemon movies digimon the movie and even ghost in the shell 2 was packed.


Those shows saw a lot of airplay specifically. Even here in Australia, on the morning Cheez TV they had episodes of pokemon and dragon ball z every day and everyone at school was into it and so the first pokemon movie was a raging success in theaters - we didn't know it was an "anime" though, as it we didn't realise it was overseas entertainment, but rather it was just another of many cartoons. I was too young to really care back then too.

But see, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time for example wouldn't get even a fraction of the same attendance because it is not played on TV every day and doesn't have a huge fanbase of dumb kids. The adults that take them are just as ignorant usually, because it's just that stupid pikemans rubbish the kids watch. I recall the dub for Spirited Away being popular in cinemas though, and it's probably one of the most widely known (in adult circles) anime movie I can think of, but even then I'm not sure if it got a theatrical showing in Australia.

I don't think fansub watchers (like myself) would begrudge paying $15 to see an anime movie. I begrudge paying $120 for a box set, because I can't afford it. But yes, the fact that the movie would be dubbed is a little bit of a turnoff for me; that said the dub of Spirited Away was great, so I don't think I'd really care that much. And I'd be keen to see Ponyo on a huge screen. Hell, I'd really love to see the Suzumiya Haruhi movie on a massive screen - that would blow my mind. But the thing is, I'd be about 1 of 10 people that show up.

Also sorry if this is going to sound racist or whatever, but I often see Americans whinge about how anime/games are expensive, inconvenient, don't get showings (like this topic) etc. I see it a lot on gaming forums too. No offense but I'm kind of sick of it. Everything we get down under is twice as expensive as what you get, if we get it at all. We have to import nearly everything, half the stuff is region locked or censored. Fallout 3 was denied classification here for months because it had the drug morphine in it, and Left 4 Dead was outright banned because we have dinosaurs like Michael Atkinson as a state attourney general (we do NOT have anything higher than MA15+ rating for video games - anything higher is denied classification and banned in the country!) - and this doesn't even touch the anime side of things. I can't watch any bandai releases on youtube where they host them, because it's considered copyright infringement here. There was a guy arrested some time ago for importing anime-related media that was deemed inappropriate. Aside from having an archaic government and expensive import costs, half the things that you say have limited release in US don't even get a theatrical release here; not to mention everything we DO get (movies, games, anime whatever) comes to us at least 4 months after it was released in the US. You guys have nothing to complain about!

Of course in saying this I recognise that there are plenty of countries where getting hands on a release is even more difficult. I'm just saying America is not one of them.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:33 pm Reply with quote
Whenever I go to them I have to drive two an half hours to go to a theater which seats about 60 and I'm one of only like 10-20 people there. None of the Funimation or VIZ film releases ever come here though so I miss out on those. Crying or Very sad

I did get to see, Howl's Moving Castle, Ghost in the Shell 2, Paprika, Ponyo, Steamboy, and Sword of the Stranger in the theater though which rocks. Cool

The two Miyazaki films had the most turnout I've seen when I went.
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Maryohki



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:36 pm Reply with quote
Pokemon and Digimon were in an entirely different league. Those managed to become huge franchises in America, but they're anomalies. Anime very rarely gets that popular.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:45 pm Reply with quote
Ponyo was released in 900 theaters here thanks to Disney.

That is not "limited".
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:14 pm Reply with quote
I agree with skylark. Not to bash the Americans but generally speaking you guys have it 'o.k'g Anime is growing (slowly) in the states, your R1 realeses are getting more faster and reliable, Simulcasting is becoming popular. An easier access to Cable Anime TV. Some Anime on TV! e.t.c

I reckon if we as the fanbase rally around for 1 cause such as atleast 1 big movie a year with a reasonable cinema release. The entertainment industry might be encouraged and we would get more and more. We need to stop bickering among ourselves about Subs vs Dubs bla bla bla and just support whatever is brought to us.

New fans are bound to be made that means more exposure and even more advertising. Its all up to us in the end.

As a side-note.Where I come from Zambia (Africa). We have NO Anime AT ALL! a few Ghibli films maybe in some obscure Library perhpaps but other than that nothing. However our local fanbase is growing, fans exchange the anime they have and network very well. When Ponyo was released at the 1 cinema in the capital for only week it sold out! Because of this I hear local DVD stores now (I left the country 2 years ago) have a decent Anime section atleast. The power of unity people.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:03 pm Reply with quote
I don't think its the matter of fan base, but rather how heavily the anime is promoted before being released in theaters. My example would be the theatrical release of Ponyo a year back. Since it was being shown at theater in my town, a decent amount of people I knew who don't watch anime went to watch it. If there was more advertising for it and bigger release, there would be no doubt that it could make a decent amount of cash in theaters.
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