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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:18 pm Reply with quote
It'll probably still be better than DC/WB's recent animated offerings. (Adding Damian Wayne and Jaime Reyes to The Judas Contract, ugh.)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:01 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
It'll probably still be better than DC/WB's recent animated offerings. (Adding Damian Wayne and Jaime Reyes to The Judas Contract, ugh.)


Is that seriously the worst thing you could think of? You know - even worse than Batsex?
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Gemnist wrote:

Is that seriously the worst thing you could think of? You know - even worse than Batsex?


At least the adaptation of TKJ is presentable if you skip those first thirty minutes of nonsense. At least they got Conroy and Hamill for it.

Better than squishing the Court of Owls and Born to Kill arcs from the comics (even though they're about two completely different things) and making Batman vs Robin.

They used to make such good adaptations, too. The Dark Knight Returns adaptation was excellent.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:47 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
It'll probably still be better than DC/WB's recent animated offerings. (Adding Damian Wayne and Jaime Reyes to The Judas Contract, ugh.)


I thought JLD was a return to form but yeah looks to be down the toilet with Judas lol
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Gemnist wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
It'll probably still be better than DC/WB's recent animated offerings. (Adding Damian Wayne and Jaime Reyes to The Judas Contract, ugh.)


Is that seriously the worst thing you could think of? You know - even worse than Batsex?


Think it's high time people let that go.
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GeorgeC



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:09 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
Gemnist wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
It'll probably still be better than DC/WB's recent animated offerings. (Adding Damian Wayne and Jaime Reyes to The Judas Contract, ugh.)


Is that seriously the worst thing you could think of? You know - even worse than Batsex?


Think it's high time people let that go.



The Killing Joke was hardly the best story they could have chosen to adapt to begin with -- even before they decided to add to the story and have Batman boff Batgirl in the film!

(That was an inexplicable moment of bad taste but then again Bruce Timm IS on record as saying he thought Man of Steel was a "great movie"! So yeah, he does 'F' up like anybody else does and has inexplicable opinions and attitudes on some things. He's a mass of contradictions. He has some HORRIBLE tastes in things if you dig deep enough and pay attention...)

I never understood the popularity of The Killing Joke and I have a first printing edition that I bought in store in 1988 when it came out! It was a horrible way to write out Batgirl (who they managed to redeem in the 1990s animated series) and it just wasn't funny or revelatory -- it was just mean-spirited. And yet another origin story for a character (The Joker) whose story is best left mysterious.

It's gotta be the Alan Moore connection... He can do no wrong in the eyes of some people even even though he's as cranky and half-crazy as they come in entertainment media. Even he doesn't think The Killing Joke is a great story. He pretty much agrees it WAS a mean-spirited mess that DC editorial shouldn't have greenlit.

There were at least a half-dozen better Batman stories they could have adapted including two- to-three Elseworlds ("Batman: Gotham by Gaslight" would be a great choice I think) and even the Batman manga "Child of Dreams" by Kia Asimaya could have been a more entertaining film.

I have a half-notion they made "Killing Joke" just to bring back Mark Hamill for future DC projects.
I hope he doesn't make a habit of "retiring" from the role like Hayao Miyazaki does with directing films!!!

(Hamill does sound a bit past his prime. Tired voice, very smoky. He's definitely been smoking for a number of years. Then again, Kevin Conroy sounded tired in "Killing Joke," too. I was only more disappointed by the utterly boring Adam West animated project and I had been looking forward to that one for over a year! Big, big disappointment... and I liked his live-action film, too.)

That's one of the few things I'd find more annoying than some of the choices on stories made to adapt (I pretty much hate ALL the DC-52 crap!) or inexplicable decisions to "improve team lineups and plot threads" in old storylines ( => The Judas Contract... Oh poor Teen Titans, why don't they just put you out of your misery?!!?!?).
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The Killing Joke did not write off Batgirl. Two reasons. Originally it was never meant to be canon. Until it was, as these things go. Also at the time of the story Barbara Gordon was no longer Batgirl. Because she grew up and isn't a girl anyone. Even the new 52 had to de-age her to make her Batgirl again.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:36 pm Reply with quote
GeorgeC wrote:

(That was an inexplicable moment of bad taste but then again Bruce Timm IS on record as saying he thought Man of Steel was a "great movie"! So yeah, he does 'F' up like anybody else does and has inexplicable opinions and attitudes on some things. He's a mass of contradictions. He has some HORRIBLE tastes in things if you dig deep enough and pay attention...)


Man Of Steel is nowhere close to being as subpar as Superman Returns (which people apparently forget about) and nowhere near as awful as Superman 3, 4, & Batman vs Superman. So him liking that film (or any others) specifically shouldn't really invalidate anything he says or does.


GeorgeC wrote:
(who they managed to redeem in the 1990s animated series)


Don't know how they "redeemed" her considering the show and the comic book followed different continuities. That and the series used her less than The New Batman Adventures did.

GeorgeC wrote:
and it just wasn't funny


Yeah I don't think the point of crippling Barbara and then showing her father the pictures of her laying in her own blood was "supposed" to be funny at least to the reader.

GeorgeC wrote:
And yet another origin story for a character (The Joker) whose story is best left mysterious.


Joker's origins is something that's never really been set in stone though. It's just the version of his origin story depicted in that story is the most iconic. That and the New 52 more or less retconned it out anyway.
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