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emory



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:10 pm Reply with quote
A little update. The news post appears to have disappeared from AdultSwim.com's News section.
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Mugen The Great



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:18 am Reply with quote
Starwind Amada wrote:
I have a feeling that most of those ratings are going towards Family Guy for 2 reasons:

1) FG is showing new episodes in addition to reruns.
2) FG is actually funny while Futurama spends time making lame jokes about Bender's "shiny metal ass" and has everyone screaming for no reason. Then they have that blonde military dude trying to act like he's cool and Bender acting like he's all that. And the show's been cancelled by Fox with no signs of ever returning. Good riddance. Let Family Guy continue to reign over that show.


How much of Futurama have you actually seen? I admit that about 70% of the time, the show was pretty weak compared to Family Guy. Still, even those lower-quality episodes contained a few geniune laughs and beautiful computer animation. And the remaining 30% of the series was 100% genius! Even better than the best moments of The Simpsons (and DON'T start insulting The Simpsons, because without that show your precious Family Guy wouldn't even be here and despite the recent episodes sucking you should be able to forgive that given that you are very forgiving of the mediocre recent season of Family Guy and most of the episodes of American Dad)! If you aren't laughing in hysterics during the Futurama episode Roswell That Ends Well, there's something wrong with you. The show could even be extremely touching at points, and if you don't cry at the end of the episode Jurassic Bark, you are clearly a soulless asshole (it's Grave of the Fireflies-level sad, and if you diss Grave of the Fireflies, I don't even want anything to do with you).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:43 am Reply with quote
I'd rather see a talking dog parody an internet cartoon, a 1-year-old evil genius beat up Osama bin Laden, and a fat guy complain about the FCC using song and dance than some lame robot who smokes cigars and characters who think they're hot stuff because Matt Groening thinks he's some genius who deserves respect. Lord MacFarlane reigns over all. Cool

Mugen the Great wrote:
DON'T start insulting The Simpsons, because without that show your precious Family Guy wouldn't even be here and despite the recent episodes sucking you should be able to forgive that given that you are very forgiving of the mediocre recent season of Family Guy and most of the episodes of American Dad)! If you aren't laughing in hysterics during the Futurama episode Roswell That Ends Well, there's something wrong with you. The show could even be extremely touching at points, and if you don't cry at the end of the episode Jurassic Bark, you are clearly a soulless not-so-nice-person (it's Grave of the Fireflies-level sad, and if you diss Grave of the Fireflies, I don't even want anything to do with you).


Family Guy Season 4 is mediocre. Yeah, right. If you don't laugh at PTV, you are disturbed and need medical attention right away. If Peter's listing of all the shows Fox has cancelled or that G.I. Joe PSA telling kids not to drink doesn't get you laughing, you should kill yourself. And yes, I've seen some of Futurama, and it had me waiting for the credits. Lamest, most boring show I've ever seen.
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DarkAdonis



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:49 am Reply with quote
Ok yeah, I've watched every show on cartoon network sunday nights. Its kind of a thing that we all get ready to do on the weekend, me and all the roomates.

Honestly I like the lineup now except for Eva, because its kind of out-dated. I'd rather watch Escaflowne or Blue Seed, or Blue Gender.

Anyways, Believe it or not I like the fact they added in the Boondocks, Its not the usual hardcore anime and usually is hilarious. So are they droping it when these changes come?
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Mugen The Great



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:13 pm Reply with quote
Starwind Amada wrote:
I'd rather see a talking dog parody an internet cartoon, a 1-year-old evil genius beat up Osama bin Laden, and a fat guy complain about the FCC using song and dance than some lame robot who smokes cigars and characters who think they're hot stuff because Matt Groening thinks he's some genius who deserves respect. Lord MacFarlane reigns over all. Cool


This proves you've probably seen only about 2-3 episodes maximum of Futurama. Bender and Zapp are both lame characters, but sometimes Futurama is extremely funny. How could you not laugh at a delivery boy getting superpowers to fight against evil brains (whose key to gaining infinate knowledge is a carpet advertisement) via having sex with his grandmother in the past, a one-eyed lady having delusions parodying 2001: A Space Odyssey and Bob Marley songs, and entire alternate universes of bobbleheads, wind-up toys, and hippies all contained inside a box built with the purpose of "not opening it"? Family Guy is funny (PTV was hilarious), but Futurama is very funny at times as well. Also, Futurama goes a step beyond Family Guy by having a logical continuity and some very touching moments (as I said before, if the episode Jurassic Bark doesn't make you cry, consult a mental hospital immediately).
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jhuhn



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:11 pm Reply with quote
At least Inuyasha is back on Adult Swim on Tuesday nights/Wednesday mornings. Let's hope it stays in that time slot for the next 40 weeks when the series is complete.

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Dagwood



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:03 pm Reply with quote
emory wrote:
A little update. The news post appears to have disappeared from AdultSwim.com's News section.
I noticed that too Confused. After clicking the 'Schedule Revisions' news link it brings up this:
[adult swim] wrote:
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sinistertaco wrote:
You know, for all the complaining you people do...
This is a forum and people do discuss their opinions on forums. My opinion just so happens to be of displeasure and disinterest. You’re right, I am complaining, but I am also a paying costumer, I sort of have the right to Wink.
sinistertaco wrote:
...you're lucky there's even any anime on Adult Swim at all... ...and it could be argued that if they switched to an all comedy format, they could potentially increase revenue and ratings quite a bit...
You have a point there, and it is definitely possible they could increase revenue. However, the anime side of [as] is a pretty large market in itself. It's about half of all [as] programming. If they got rid of it they'd loose a lot of viewers, especially those viewers who watch the late night side of the block. Say they got rid of anime altogether, what would they show in its place? Besides (new) Family Guy, Robot Chicken, Strocker and Hoop, and The Boondocks their new comedies suck. They'd have a tough time filling the block if they didn't have anime.

sinistertaco wrote:
Despite the ignorant and unresearched claims of "dropping ratings" and viewer disinterest, Adult Swim is doing extremely well for itself...
They are doing very well for themselves... accept Saturdays. This it seems is their reasoning behind the recent schedule change. It would seem that they are trying to further boost ratings by putting some more premiers into the weekday line-up; this for me kind of sucks due to my work and school schedule. If it works for them, so be it, I'll deal with it. But (to me) it just seems like they are trying a radical solution to fix a small problem. In the past they've tried to put anime at the 11pm spot and to no surprise it performed poorly. (Especially since that anime was Inuyasha, and good luck getting the comedy crowd to watch anime by showing Inuyasha Rolling Eyes.) After a few bad weekends they put a comedy back in at the 11pm spot to correct the problem and the ratings most definitely improved. These days we've got another anime at the 11pm spot and guess what, the ratings aren't doing as well as [as] would like.

All I ask for are some 'new' re-runs during the week. I never asked for an "all anime block." They have a ton of great shows like Wolf's Rain that they are just sitting on. It's a shame they feel the need to continually re-run the same ones (i.e. aqua Teen, FLCL, and Inuyasha) over and over again. I completely agree that the comedies are the big money makers. I just ask for a little more consideration for this side of the viewer ship.
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.Sy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:59 pm Reply with quote
Well I can agree that having [Adult Swim] is nothing to be complaining about. If they need the ratings and change the premiere episodes to once every day as opposed to everything on Saturday, then I'll just have to step up the security around my tape recorder...Inconvenient, but I'd never be able to watch it before the weekend anyway. It causes me a bit of grumbling, but in the end, I think it's a lot better than [AS] just yanking anime altogether.
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Dagwood



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:32 am Reply with quote
The link works now.
[adult swim] wrote:
Schedule Revisions
11/30/2005

Saturday Changes

On Dec. 24 The Boondocks will take the 11 p.m. slot, followed by Stroker & Hoop at 11:30 a.m. At midnight the first two InuYasha movies will air back-to-back, with Affections Touching Across Time at midnight and Castle Beyond the Looking Glass at 2:30 a.m.

A 12 oz. Mouse marathon will begin on Dec. 31 at midnight, ending with a new episode at 1:30 a.m.

The schedule settles into normalcy on Jan. 7 with The Boondocks leading the night off at 11 p.m., followed by Stroker & Hoop at 11:30 p.m., Fullmetal Alchemist premieres at midnight, Ghost in the Shell: 2nd Gig at 12:30 a.m. Finishing off the night are repeats of Neon Genesis Evangelion at 1 a.m. and Cowboy Bebop at 1:30 a.m.

Sunday Changes

Beginning Jan. 1, the Sunday line-up gets shifted around: American Dad at 10 p.m., Family Guy at 10:30 p.m., The Boondocks at 11 p.m., Robot Chicken at 11:30 p.m., Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law at 11:45 p.m., Squidbillies at midnight, Aqua Teen Hunger Force at 12:15 a.m., Perfect Hair Forever at 12:30 a.m., 12 oz. Mouse at 12:45 a.m., Boo Boo Runs Wild at 1 a.m., Tom Goes to the Mayor at 1:30 a.m. and Sealab 2021 at 1:45 a.m.

Weekday Changes

On Jan. 2 Home Movies will return to the line-up Mondays-Wednesdays at midnight. Later in the night, s-CRY-ed will take over the 1 a.m. slot, followed by Lupin the 3rd at 1:30 a.m.

Also beginning Jan. 2, the 12:30 a.m. slot will rotate programming every day, with FLCL on Mondays, premieres of InuYasha on Tuesdays, premieres of Samurai Champloo on Wednesdays and Neon Genesis Evangelion on Thursdays.
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:52 am Reply with quote
It also proves that Amada basically has no real taste nor perception of comedy. Stewie's most redeeming moments are not when he is a baby-genius bent on world destruction, but moreso when he's a sarcastic jerk.

The biggest problem that Family Guy has going for it is that the jokes have a big tendancy to overdo themselves. One such example would be when Stewie sang "Rocket Man", which wasn't funny nor paticularly well executed, yet went on for painfully long. Others include when Peter fought the Chicken, etc.

Futurama has got to have some of the best writing I've seen in an Animated series. The stories can be silly, however they are compotent and manage to pack in humour of multiple varieties without overdoing it.

But you have to remember, Amada is generally only good for a laugh, so don't bother.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:34 am Reply with quote
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The biggest problem that Family Guy has going for it is that the jokes have a big tendancy to overdo themselves. One such example would be when Stewie sang "Rocket Man", which wasn't funny nor paticularly well executed, yet went on for painfully long. Others include when Peter fought the Chicken, etc.

While, I am a family guy fan I would say for the most part he is right. Another example, would be when Peter gets teh golden ticket for the Partucket bruery and bangs his leg on the crub and you have to go through all the aweeeeee, aweeeeee, aweee, forever.

Futurama...I say is funny with some episodes and then has some seriousness it. I personally like the show because of those certain episodes. Now I think Family guy is better no doubt about that but futurama still has some good comedy parts in it.
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:38 pm Reply with quote
Steventheeunuch wrote:
The biggest problem that Family Guy has going for it is that the jokes have a big tendancy to overdo themselves. One such example would be when Stewie sang "Rocket Man", which wasn't funny nor paticularly well executed, yet went on for painfully long.


That's a parody of William Shatner's classic performance at some science fiction awards ceremony 1978.
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WesW



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I guess I'm a little late to the party, but I think there are some things that haven't been brought up that have a big effect on the scheduling decisions and/or numbers.

First, when they used to flash the ratings onscreen during commercials a few months back, I noticed that there was a gradual decline in each sucessive show on any given night, usually around 10-15% per half hour. This is probably due to people having to go to bed, rather than the quality of a given program. If comedies were naturally more popular than anime, you should have seen a break in the curve, but I never noticed one. Therefore, I think that the only way to conclusively see which is more popular is to start giving the animes the 11 PM timeslot on a couple of weeknights, and compare them to comedies showing at the same time the following night, for example.
I have only been watching AS for about a year now, but I wonder why they haven't tried this yet. I wonder if they are thinking about the competition during the 11-12:30 period, namely Letterman and Leno, which are quite popular with the 18-34 y.o. male demographic which AS targets. Their thinking may be to save the anime until the talk shows are finished.
I figure that premeiring EVA on a weeknight this fall was a test, and I guess they liked what they saw, since they are expanding that trial to the other nights. I hope FLCL is just a temporary fit until they get another new show greenlighted.

Saturday night has become such a low-ratings night that no one in all of TV seems to know what to do with it. IIRC, overall Saturday Night ratings are down around 25% over the last decade. ABC has put out an open call, offering practically anyone the chance to air a show, if they can make it for $750,000 an episode. IIRC, a CBS newsmag is the only hour of original series programming left this fall on any of the major networks. This general dropoff has to be affecting CN just like everyone else, so it's no surprise that the people at AS are searching for other nights for their premieres.

BTW, I read that the Boondocks was originally developed for Fox's Sunday night lineup, but the executives passed on it when they saw how racially controversial it was, both in topic and language (the N-word). The article had one guy who predicted a storm of controversy over the show. I figure that the show's primetime pedigree explains why AS has been promoting and featuring it so prominently.
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WesW wrote:
Therefore, I think that the only way to conclusively see which is more popular is to start giving the animes the 11 PM timeslot on a couple of weeknights, and compare them to comedies showing at the same time the following night, for example.


I guess they think "If it isn't broke, don't try to fix it." As long as Family Guy and Futurama are pulling in ~1,000,000 viewers in those slots, there's no need to change it.

And the Saturday ratings are very spastic, so you can't really compare. But they did seem to perform better and more consistantly when Futurama was up first.
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I think [adult swim] would do a better job telling the viewers where all the (anime) shows are if they would just TELL THEM. Especially with the schedule changes coming next month, I would like to hear someone from whatever show do a voice-over during the shortened ED to tell viewers of upcoming schedule changes, daily schedule promos, and coming up next blurbs. Cartoon Network (dayside, anyway) still does programming voiceovers during the EDs of their shows. Why not Adult Swim? And especially while the ED is being broadcast, not during commercial breaks? (Or better yet, a voiceover during the Adult Swim eyecatches that begin and end the ad breaks?)

I'd really like to hear Vic Mignogna's voice during the EDs of FMA for the next couple weeks or so going "Hey, this is Vic Mignogna. Here to remind you that starting January 7, new episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist will air at midnight, 11 Central. Stay tuned for Samurai Champloo, coming up next, only on Adult Swim." Since the EDs are shortened anyway for time, pretty much any short audio blurb from one of the voice actors reminding people of shows and times would definitely help out.

People would watch more of whatever show, if only they'd know when it's on, and when it will be on in the future! The more they know, the better the ratings. [adult swim] should stop giving the anime viewers the short shrift and keep those viewers well-informed.

- J
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