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Abarenbo Shogun



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:47 pm Reply with quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnant_Ranma_Problem

I read this over three times, and I still don't understand it, and i'm now getting weird thoughts about abortion and other things that makes me wanna go to gurochan for some unexplainable reason. Can someone explain to me what the...Hypothesis is?
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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:03 am Reply with quote
Rumiko Takahashi says
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"I don't think about that, and neither should you."
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DemonEyesLeo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:03 am Reply with quote
All it is, is fans looking way too realistically at aspects of the story. Because Ranma was able to change into a girl some started wondering what would happen if s/he got pregnant. The response to this was Takahashi's quote that LydiaDianne has provided. Ranma's a comedy series, the gender changes are a comedic element and nothing more.
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selenta
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:29 am Reply with quote
oh my god.... I love wikipedia. Anime hyper

That's hilarious, I can't believe the stuff that's actually in there. I hope wikipedia never stops growing. Cool Honestly... I'm rather surprised that concept never even occured to me, considering I've pretty much seen the entire series by now.
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:45 am Reply with quote
Ah, yes. The age old Ranma pregnancy problem.

Think about it. Here's a very short summary (for those who learned about it fairly recently):

Ranma was born male. Yet, he gained the ability to become female. Therefore, can the female version become pregnant?

Quite honestly, I find this thought to be massively disturbing - considering the fact of Ramna being male (originally).

Though, has anyone asked this question: "What happens if a pregnant female Ranma changes back to male?"

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daxomni



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:14 am Reply with quote
Now that you mention it, getting pregnant itself is pretty rare in anime. I mean, think about it, it's not the most common theme for primary characters in anime released for R1. It's usually just reserved for flashbacks and ending episodes.
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:55 am Reply with quote
What if Ranma got himself pregnant?
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:44 am Reply with quote
The obvious answer is "Yes, he could carry the baby to term, but he'd have to avoid warm or hot water for 9 months."

If he turned back to a male in the early stages of pregnancy, there'd just be a miscarriage, while, if he didn't turn back to a male until the later stages of pregnancy, there would probably be some major organ ruptures for the father-mother.

Also, since it's magic, everything, including his skeletal structure, turns to that of a female, but, just for the sake of argument, what would happen if his skeleton stayed male? He'd have to have a C-section, as, despite what you might have seen at many a stage hypnotist show, the male pelvis does not have a wide enough aperture for an infant to pass through.

The people who ask whether Ranma can get pregnant miss the obvious question, though. Does Ranma have periods?
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8daze



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
The people who ask whether Ranma can get pregnant miss the obvious question, though. Does Ranma have periods?

I doubt he's ever in female form long enough to find out. I can just see the fanfics now though... PMSing!Ranma.
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omar235



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:20 pm Reply with quote
KyuuA4 wrote:
Ah, yes. The age old Ranma pregnancy problem.

Think about it. Here's a very short summary (for those who learned about it fairly recently):

Ranma was born male. Yet, he gained the ability to become female. Therefore, can the female version become pregnant?

Quite honestly, I find this thought to be massively disturbing - considering the fact of Ramna being male (originally).

Though, has anyone asked this question: "What happens if a pregnant female Ranma changes back to male?"



Thats whats known as a butt-baby. Wink
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Wolverine Princess



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:14 pm Reply with quote
omar235 wrote:

Thats whats known as a butt-baby. Wink

Is it actually possible for someone to have an anal baby? I've heard that if seamen leaks from a woman's butt into her vagina during anal sex, it's possible for the woman to become pregnant. Is that just a load of crap, or could it really happen?
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selenta
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:24 pm Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
Is it actually possible for someone to have an anal baby? I've heard that if seamen leaks from a woman's butt into her vagina during anal sex, it's possible for the woman to become pregnant. Is that just a load of crap, or could it really happen?


... No, lol.

And yes, it can happen... in theory. I've never actually heard of it happening personally though, think about it though. With how many millions of sperm there are (just read it's usually between 90 and 400 million), if even only half a percent of it dribbles down and finds itself inside, that's on the order of millions of sperm. You do the math from there. Rolling Eyes Actually, doesn't look too unlikely thinking about it a little.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:03 pm Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
I've heard that if seamen leaks from a woman's butt into her vagina during anal sex, it's possible for the woman to become pregnant. Is that just a load of crap, or could it really happen?

I have no idea, but that would be the most uncomfortable way to get pregnant ever. I don't think it's very likely, though.

Concerning Ranma, the butt-baby theory doesn't cut it, because there's all the female internal reproductive organs that are still needed, the most important being the uterus. Which begs the question, if Ranma indeed could retain impregnation even going back and forth between woman and man, does that mean the uterus remains intact? It would have to, or the fetus would die.

Also, a woman's estrogen levels often dramatically increase during pregnancy, and her breasts become larger while retaining milk. So one would have to assume a pregnant male Ranma would also have increased hormones... and milk.

Let's just hope that female Ranma has no eggs. And if she does, well... if I were her I'd just be very carfeul to stay away from hot water to avoid a potentially horrid, Cronenberg-esque disaster.
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selenta
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:30 pm Reply with quote
Cloe wrote:
Wolverine Princess wrote:
I've heard that if seamen leaks from a woman's butt into her vagina during anal sex, it's possible for the woman to become pregnant. Is that just a load of crap, or could it really happen?

I have no idea, but that would be the most uncomfortable way to get pregnant ever. I don't think it's very likely, though.

Concerning Ranma, the butt-baby theory doesn't cut it, because there's all the female internal reproductive organs that are still needed, the most important being the uterus. Which begs the question, if Ranma indeed could retain impregnation even going back and forth between woman and man, does that mean the uterus remains intact? It would have to, or the fetus would die.

Also, a woman's estrogen levels often dramatically increase during pregnancy, and her breasts become larger while retaining milk. So one would have to assume a pregnant male Ranma would also have increased hormones... and milk.

Let's just hope that female Ranma has no eggs. And if she does, well... if I were her I'd just be very carfeul to stay away from hot water to avoid a potentially horrid, Cronenberg-esque disaster.


Or maybe the hormones and fetus just disappear as magically as the organs holding it. Wink
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DemonEyesLeo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:36 pm Reply with quote
All this is the exact illustration of the "problem:" looking way too seriously at a fictional, comedic device. But for the sake of argument he's not going to get pregnant. One; he always identifies himself as a male; and two, he's clearly heterosexual.

Swordfish_II wrote:
What if Ranma got himself pregnant?


Not possible. He's either one or the other, he can't be male and female at the same moment in time.
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