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Are U.S cartoons made in is it Japan still anime?


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naruto fan 09812



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:23 pm Reply with quote
I know this never happen but I look up the word anime in the dictionary and it said in quote cartoons made in Japan. And I was just wondering do cartoons americans make in Japan is it still anime?

EDIT: Made the title sound a little better. -TK]


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:39 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
I know this never happen but I look up the word anime in the dictionary and it said in quote cartoons made in Japan. And I was just wondering do cartoons americans make in Japan is it still anime?


I am having trouble understanding what you are trying to say by reading your hedder.

To answer your question, no I don't think they are still considered anime.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:48 pm Reply with quote
True, it is hard to understand the opener, but I think I got the "jist" of it. Okay, NO, it wouldn't be considered anime. If they were to air Dexter's Lab in Japan, then it wouldn't be considered anime. If they were to Family Guy, then it wouldn't be considered anime. I believe it has to be made in Japan. Of course there are other technicalities on what makes a cartoon an anime, but I'm not too sure on them. Someone with greater knowledge on the subject should post soon and enlighten you.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:51 pm Reply with quote
You mean, if some Americans just decided to move to Japan just so they can make cartoons and call them anime? Well, I don't think anybody would be that stupid, but no, it wouldn't count.

If you're talking about Americans who have been raised in Japan, yes, I feel that would count. They've already been affected by Japanese views and culture, unlike the people who just moved to Japan to call their cartoons anime.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:00 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
I know this never happen but I look up the word anime in the dictionary and it said in quote cartoons made in Japan. And I was just wondering do cartoons americans make in Japan is it still anime?


Depends. The way I look at it, is that anime is anything is produced primarily by a Japanese production studio. Basically, if the director, writers, designers, storyboarders, and other key production hands are almost entirely on the payroll of and working directly under a Japanese production studio, then it's anime. BUT, if an American or European (or whatever) studio is just outsourcing regular grunt animation work to a Japanese studio, and the creative heads of the series are not directly working for said studio, then it's not anime, as the creative minds running the operation are stationed somewhere outside of Japan. And on the flipside, if a Japanese animation studio outsources gruntwork to, say, Korea, but the core production heads are still working directly under the Japanese studio, then it counts as anime.

Short answer: no. Anime comes from Japanese animation studios where the guys literally running the production process are working directly for that studio. Simple as that.
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naruto fan 09812



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:20 pm Reply with quote
Thanks,I was just wondering since outsourcing have become so popular.
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SharinganEyes92



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:33 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
Thanks,I was just wondering since outsourcing have become so popular.


If companies wish to outsource for animation, then I think they go to Korea. Shows such as Family Guy have been outsourced to Korea, so I'm guessng that's where a majority go, but I really can't back that statement up.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:55 pm Reply with quote
You can have people that are foreign to Japan make anime, but as mentioned above, the show has to come from Japan in order for it to be anime. I've seen several anime where there have Korean and Chinese staff. It just has to come from Japan.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:02 pm Reply with quote
It's probably worth mentioning that a few of these "outsourced" animated movies and series are really worth your while.

And, with anime based on Herman Melville's Moby Dick, Wagner's Ring of the Nibelung, and Dumas' Count of Monte Cristo all available, obviously a Western story is nothing new.

To really demonstrate my point, I'd suggest watching The Last Unicorn, based on the novel of the same name by Peter S. Beagle. It was animated by the Japanese company Topcraft, which later became part of the core of Studio Ghibli after animating Nausicaa.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:37 am Reply with quote
Craeyst Raygal wrote:
To really demonstrate my point, I'd suggest watching The Last Unicorn, based on the novel of the same name by Peter S. Beagle. It was animated by the Japanese company Topcraft, which later became part of the core of Studio Ghibli after animating Nausicaa.


Wait, wait.... that's anime? I thought it was a rankin/bass title... or is this another version of the same story?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:07 am Reply with quote
DuelLadyS wrote:
Craeyst Raygal wrote:
To really demonstrate my point, I'd suggest watching The Last Unicorn, based on the novel of the same name by Peter S. Beagle. It was animated by the Japanese company Topcraft, which later became part of the core of Studio Ghibli after animating Nausicaa.


Wait, wait.... that's anime? I thought it was a rankin/bass title... or is this another version of the same story?


Rankin Bass sometimes outsourced animation production to Japan. Thundercats is a prime example.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:43 am Reply with quote
I don't think it really matters, does it?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:48 am Reply with quote
MonkeyFunk wrote:
I don't think it really matters, does it?


Depends on the context. Can't be calling stuff things when it's actually not. Otherwise it just leads to confusion.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:07 am Reply with quote
The header and the actual topic are still really unclear...
Quote:
I know this never happen but I look up the word anime in the dictionary and it said in quote cartoons made in Japan. And I was just wondering do cartoons americans make in Japan is it still anime?
Possible Translation: If Americans Make Cartoons In Japan, Are They Considered Anime?

Wouldn't the answer be yes. As stated before by fighterholic, there are several anime with Korean or Chinese staff that are considered anime.

I still don't think naruto_fan understands how cartoons/anime are made. Why would Americans go to Japan to make a cartoon, when they have all the resources they need here?

Is Naruto_Fan talking about American funded shows? Afro Samurai is considered anime even though it is intended for American release and has several English voice actors, well hopefully it does although it would be funny to hear Samuel arguing with Engrish speakers, and isn't that show funded by Americans? But a Japanese studio produced it so it's considered anime.
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suna_suna



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:49 am Reply with quote
i think that at least the base idea's for a cartoon should come from japan for it to be considered anime. Even though some anime has a chinese staff, if it was thought up in japan, it should be called anime. an american idea for a cartoon made in japan is different.

another example could be the cultural influences on the cartoon itself. should the definition of anime be if the cartoon is based in japanese culture. even something made in japan would still have all the traces of an american cartoon in its comedy and cultural references. of course exceptions could be made by the definition i wrote above.

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As stated before by fighterholic, there are several anime with Korean or Chinese staff that are considered anime.


is all of the staff chinese or korean, or just some of it?
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