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InSeRtNaMeHeRe



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:39 pm Reply with quote
well they probably shouldnt use america hip hop in anime because it would kind of ruin my image of it lol *coughjarulesuxcough* NAIL IN THE COFFIN! lol
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:40 pm Reply with quote
SakechanBD wrote:
BuffaloStyle wrote:
SakechanBD wrote:
Hmm, GTO's Kirari is definitely *not* hip hop. It's pretty straight-forward JPop, even with the heavy bass beat.
Ah, but it is the bass beat that gives it the hip hop "feel" that I was talking about. In fact, it was almost New Jack Swing in tone as it reminded me of an old song by a group named Guy.


Ah, my fellow Coloradoan, you need to brush up on your definition of hip hop.
I must be getting old. I was pretty sure I knew what hip hop was after spending all of those years listening to it. Wink

I'm afraid I'm going to have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one SakechanBD. People borrow from different musical styles all of the time. I don't know anything about Kirari but I'm pretty sure that they are a JPop group. That doesn't mean that they can't play something with a hip hop feel to it. I'm not saying that they are playing hip hop just that they are playing something with a hip hop feel.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:03 pm Reply with quote
BuffaloStyle wrote:
I'm afraid I'm going to have to (respectfully) disagree with you on this one SakechanBD. People borrow from different musical styles all of the time. I don't know anything about Kirari but I'm pretty sure that they are a JPop group. That doesn't mean that they can't play something with a hip hop feel to it. I'm not saying that they are playing hip hop just that they are playing something with a hip hop feel.


Yes, Kirari is a JPop group. I guess perhaps my definition of Hip Hop is just different from yours. I've never though of heavy bass beats as a specifically hip hop trait, especially since it's used in a variety of musicforms, ranging from jazz, groove, jungle, to a variety of others.

I suppose one of the problems may lie in the fact that genre titles are always changing. What just used to be called Dance has since branched into Jungle, Trance, Rave, Techno, House, etc. Rock = alternative, punk, ska, power pop, etc. Even if you trace hip hop, it's been shuffled around so that what one may consider hip hop has at one point in time been called rap, bhangra, or amusingly, dance. If you look at today's top 50 Hip Hop, a lot of the titles on there are what 5 years ago I would have called R&B.

In the first posts of this thread, mention was made of hip hop i conjunction to rap. I guess when I read those two "genres" together, my mind automatically shifted to the artists today that are thrown under those categories, like Ja Rule, Sean Paul, 50 Cent, Groove Armada, etc. It was hard for me to imagine Kirari-esque pop as something 50 Cent related, despite the back beat. Though now that I think of it, Kirari's music does sound similar to some of Groove Armada's stuff-- but even Groove-Armada-hip-hop is vastly different from 50-Cent-hip-hop.

In short, I guess it's a matter of what you define as hip hop. The categorization of music is always changing and hard to pin down-- even within a "genre." MOVE and Globe's style of rap are vastly different than some of the more "Americanized" styles of Japanese rap out there. So I'll concede to your point, all while maintaining mine. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:02 am Reply with quote
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I suppose one of the problems may lie in the fact that genre titles are always changing. Even if you trace hip hop, it's been shuffled around so that what one may consider hip hop has at one point in time been called rap, bhangra, or amusingly, dance. If you look at today's top 50 Hip Hop, a lot of the titles on there are what 5 years ago I would have called R&B.
Very Happy
I couldn't have said that any better than you just did.

Good times.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:56 pm Reply with quote
Oh, right, I just remembered. Dear Boys uses a lot of hip hop, too, and "American-styled" rap.
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