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NEWS: Nausicaa Theatrical Release


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hikura



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:28 pm Reply with quote
JiJi McPaws wrote:
hikura wrote:
Necros Antiquor wrote:
A "small scale theatrical release"...i.e., there's no way I'll get to see it without driving far, far away. Darn you, niche films that I want to see on the big screen! Darn you, I say!

I am in agreeance here.Unless you live in a major city or close to it there is no chance in hell most of us will able to see this movie.At this point the closest thing you will see this on a "big screen" is if you own a huge ass tv or really rich and have an acutal threate in your house.Plus disney should have done this before the dvd was released.In my opnion disney has doen these movies in so many ways.But this topic has been discussed already.


But that the point of a small theater release. Since the DVD is out, Disney doesn't expect to make million of dollars on this film. If anything, Disney is making a smart move, one of the smartest moves in Anime marketing in the US by far. Bringing a movie from the 80's into theaters that's already on DVD? Disney's doing this for the fans, I respect them now more than ever before.

They could have easily have released such a great movie into threaters here in america well before the dvd came out on a major release schedule in alot of cinemas.This would have been the smarter move.Plus with the delay of the release of porco rosso,the cat returns and nausicaa it could have easily have helped the release of the dvd by exposing a greater audience to a true masterpieces that are not american and that doesn't cater to just kids.Plus i say leave it in it's unaltered format(japanese track) and show the american verison also.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:48 pm Reply with quote
On all the charts for US imports, Nausicaa has been pretty high and the highest of the 3 Ghibli films released, so yeah quite a few people are buying it. I will be too, soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:11 pm Reply with quote
I agree with you that this is so cool. I guess we will see this on less a 100 screens. Probably, the closest to me is 2 hours away in Washington, DC.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:44 am Reply with quote
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They could have easily have released such a great movie into threaters here in america well before the dvd came out on a major release schedule in alot of cinemas.This would have been the smarter move.


Financially speaking? No. A twenty year old foreign movie by a mostly unknown director (not to mention being a PG cartoon) would not sell to the vast majority of people. The only people in the theatres will be fans who likely would buy the DVD and see the movie in theatres regardless of the timeing of the release. No, this move is only for the fans, and I for one am grateful.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:45 am Reply with quote
I'm not sure how the system works, but would this make Nausiccaa somewhat eligable for 2005 Oscar Nomination, or not?

I'm not sure how the precedure on American release dates vs. the original release dates works.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:38 am Reply with quote
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hikura wrote:
They could have easily have released such a great movie into threaters here in america well before the dvd came out on a major release schedule in alot of cinemas.This would have been the smarter move.


Financially speaking? No. A twenty year old foreign movie by a mostly unknown director (not to mention being a PG cartoon) would not sell to the vast majority of people. The only people in the theatres will be fans who likely would buy the DVD and see the movie in theatres regardless of the timeing of the release. No, this move is only for the fans, and I for one am grateful.

Just to prove a point.If you ask most people who directed say bambi or snow white how do you think they would respond?Most people could not tell you who directed those movies.What is the differnce between nausicaa and those?Plus if disney re-releases snow white or bambi into threaters,both of which are more then 20 years old, how well do you think they will do?Very well.If disney backed these movies plus marketed them properly they easily could make a decent profit.True not a big as their own movies but easily could a decent profit.
Look at spirited away and princess mononoke and how well they did in the movies.For foreign films and having a higher rating and a smaller scale threater release they did pretty well.Plus let us not forget what else has happened to foreign film with the academy awards.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:47 am Reply with quote
Once again, the amount of marketing a niche film like Nausicaa gets reflects the expected size of the audience, not the other way around. These films get limited marketing, because there's a limited audience for them, and it's a lot easier to make money from a DVD release, where the overhead is much lower than it would be if they wanted to distribute the film theatrically in wide release, which costs tens of millions for dollars for the cost of the prints and just a minimal level of national advertising.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:10 pm Reply with quote
The release of this into major chains can easily be done by disney.Simply cause disney has the pockets to do it.Plus if you let the major publications and other movie reviewers review it they would easily get great reviews for it.Everyone says this is for a niche market.Why?To put it simply cause no one takes animated movies that have a serious plot and that are well done seriously.If they start putting this types of movies out that are for more of a serious movie goer then the niche audience then their would be no real niche audience for these types of movies.Plus with a name like disney people can trust it a bit more(mind you i never thought i would be acutally trying to say disney and trust in the same sentence).While putting it in threaters is the proper step it isn't big enough.The american public needs to know that animated shows and movies are not excusively for kids.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:41 am Reply with quote
It's a niche market in North America because the vast majority of adults will never take animation seriously beyond the stuff like Simpsons, South Park, and Shrek. They can spend tens of millions of dollars advertising Nausicaa, but all that would happen is that they'd lose a heck of a lot of money as the wider audience required to make a profit from that sort of release isn't there and won't be there no matter how well it's advertised. Advertising in and of itself does not create a wider audience for the stuff; the sorts of films that get widely advertised are the ones that are more likely to appeal to a wider audience in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:53 pm Reply with quote
You see if the companies do not put it out in the regular mainstream movies the american audience will never realize it(animation can be serious).The first set of movies/series will not be taken seriously but the steps need to be taken by a major corpation.Disney has that power of a major coperation.A small continous release only to the small niche markets will only continue if they do not care about it.That is the point.I agree that the first few movies/series will not do good but if nothing is done...nothing will get done.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:12 pm Reply with quote
Disney is not a charity case; there's enough of a niche market for these films to make enough of a profit to be interesting to them on DVD, but, if there was a potential wider audience for these films, they'd get a wide release, but the audience just wouldn't be there for them. These films would likely flop hard in wide release because they are not the sort of films that the wider audience wants to see.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:03 pm Reply with quote
Without the wider audience there is no market for it.Well how does one get a wider market?By releasing films that shows to a wider audience that such films are out there.Which means,as i previously stated,you need to realese these films more and more into the mainstream.Without the exposure in the mainstream they will never leave the niche market and the wider mainstream will never see great films.Like i said before companies such as disney among other need to push these out into the mainstream.Yes,as i stated before,it will take several movies/series to become more mainstream.Will they intially lose money putting them into the mainstream,yes.Will it work in the long run by able to release the movies into the mainstream yes.Old addage goes to make some money you need to spend some money.Yes there is a nice niche market for them but you want new blood into this market but someone/company need to do a bit more enthusathicly.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:18 am Reply with quote
We'll see this summer. IF the limited release is a big success THEN the market may be more willing to give such films more recognition in the future. I won't be holding my breath, just be happy it's coming to theaters at all!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:51 am Reply with quote
Some things will always be niche no matter how well they're marketed. If you have $30 million lying around the house, put it in a box and send it to Disney and then they could give Nausicaa a minimal level wide release (1800 theatres or so), but Disney's not going to do it on their own dime because it would almost surely be a money-losing proposition.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:08 am Reply with quote
Haru to Ashura wrote:
I'm not sure how the system works, but would this make Nausiccaa somewhat eligable for 2005 Oscar Nomination, or not?


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if a film's already been released in another medium (like DVD) then it's automatically ineligible.
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