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hakootoko



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:59 am Reply with quote
Often manga is made into anime, but sometimes the anime is made first and then turned into manga ("novelized").

Anyone know of a good way to tell these apart? I have no interest in reading novelizations, but want to go back and read the original manga if I like the anime.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:10 am Reply with quote
hakootoko wrote:
Often manga is made into anime, but sometimes the anime is made first and then turned into manga ("novelized").

Anyone know of a good way to tell these apart? I have no interest in reading novelizations, but want to go back and read the original manga if I like the anime.


The only way I know of is seeing on the anime credits if they credit a manga-ka and give a manga publisher, other then that, the publishing date compared to the anime. They don't always tell you on the manga if it was influenced by the anime first or if it is what the anime originated off of.
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UberTai



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:42 am Reply with quote
Well, I can think of one manga that is based on the anime: RahXephon.

Isn't Trigun as well?
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:31 pm Reply with quote
I thought the manga came first for Trigun.

some of these I read are:

Utena
Stellvia
Tsukihime
Cafe Kichijoji
Escaflowne
FLCL
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jfrog



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:19 pm Reply with quote
I used to feel the same way, but it's rather silly, isn't it? We'll gladly see an adaptation from certain mediums into film/animation, but if someone makes an adaptation the other way it's suddenly not cool anymore. 'Course part of that is that novelizations and spin-off comics (Dark Horse, anyone?) really do suck most of the time. Ah well.

The Japanese also like to adapt popular novels into comics for people who want to be able to discuss a book without actually reading it. And somehow, those get released stateside. I actually make more of a point to avoid these (Battle Royale and The Ring are some good examples).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:06 pm Reply with quote
The one novelization I respect is the Evangelion manga, because it's drawn by the original character designer (Sadamoto), and tightens up or otherwise corrects plot points that went awry or were unevenly presented in the anime.

Basically the stuff that Anno tried to cram into the last Eva movie, gets distributed more fairly throughout the course of the Eva manga Very Happy
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:32 am Reply with quote
UberTai wrote:
Well, I can think of one manga that is based on the anime: RahXephon.

Isn't Trigun as well?


No...all you have to do is just use the Anime Enclopedia.

Trigun Anime first aired in 1998
The Manga released in 1995.

Also the name Yasuhiro Nightow is always associated with Trigun since he's the original creator. He also did the characer for GunGrave the videogame/anime.

The Anime was adapted from the Manga and expanded on Nightow's original work. I think this is where the confusing a rised. Even though the Anime outshine the manga in a lot of aspect, I'm glad the manga is still going.
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hakootoko



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:32 am Reply with quote
jfrog wrote:
I used to feel the same way, but it's rather silly, isn't it? We'll gladly see an adaptation from certain mediums into film/animation, but if someone makes an adaptation the other way it's suddenly not cool anymore. 'Course part of that is that novelizations and spin-off comics (Dark Horse, anyone?) really do suck most of the time. Ah well.

The Japanese also like to adapt popular novels into comics for people who want to be able to discuss a book without actually reading it. And somehow, those get released stateside. I actually make more of a point to avoid these (Battle Royale and The Ring are some good examples).


Even if we go to see movies made from books (including anime made from manga), we still recognize them as derivitive works. If I enjoy something enough that isn't the original version, I'll go back to look for the original.

I don't often see movies made from books I like. It's rarely a satisfying experience. I find it odd the way people torture themselves with Hollywood movies made from books or characters they like just so they can complain about it afterwards.

So why do I watch any anime made from manga? Sometimes the manga has a good story but minimal or ugly art that gets replaced by a generic art style in the anime. Sometimes I find that more palatable. Sometimes the addition of good music really adds something. The time factor is important, too: it takes less time to watch than read. But I guess the biggest reason is I have more access to anime than manga.
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jfrog



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:29 pm Reply with quote
*shrugs*

I personally love adaptations, as long as it's not hackwork. I find it interesting to see what new interpretation the filmmakers will have of something. Hell, all of the major films by one of my favorite directors (Pier Paulo Pasolini) are adaptations.


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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:09 pm Reply with quote
for some reason, i can usually tell if an anime is original (not based on a manga). things like Cowboy Bebop, Last Exile, Wolfs Rain are really unique and original, so much so that its obvious that a large team of people had a hand in their creation, rather than just one person.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
for some reason, i can usually tell if an anime is original (not based on a manga). things like Cowboy Bebop, Last Exile, Wolfs Rain are really unique and original, so much so that its obvious that a large team of people had a hand in their creation, rather than just one person.


I wouldn't really use that as a basis for telling apart novelizations. There are really just some creative people out there who can throw a manga at you that is nothing like you've ever read before.
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