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The one anime you get the most defensive about.


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DarkRoseFairy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:45 am Reply with quote
It’s weird for me because the anime that I defend the most is not even my favorite series. It is The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. It all started when the endless eight came out, some people treat it like that say everything about the series. I thought the endless eight wasn’t so bad that you can say the whole series suck. I know everyone have their own opinion and I shouldn’t care what other people say. I usually don’t, when people say bad things about my favorite series (Baccano, Samurai Champoo) I don’t feel like defending it because I know no matter what they say I would still like the series. I don’t mind people disagreeing with me, since that would be boring if everyone agree with you (I do like hearing different point of views) In the case of Haruhi, it just a feeling that I can’t explain really well, the need to defend it? I don’t know why I have that feeling, People tell me it natural that you hate people saying bad things about the series you like or the fact they disagree with you but that not really the case for me( note what I wrote in the beginning) .

So what I asking is, what is the one anime series for you that you can’t help but defend it when people say bad things about it, the one that you feel the most defensive about and the reasons for that. It could be a series that is you’re all time favorite or rare cases like me, a series you like but can’t say it its your favorite.
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egoist



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:02 pm Reply with quote
That's definitely Code Geass for me. Apparently the show garnered as much haters as Evangelion, and it totally pisses me off when someone comes saying that this show is full of nonsense with "flying robots" and a stupid and annoying cast of characters with a weakling who can't even run 2 meters without going out of breath. If I read it, I'll definitely reply with sarcasm at its fullest; that they should expect. But depending on my mood I might just throw in one or two nonsensical jokes, get the person angry because of my nonsense, and that's exactly when my revenge is complete.
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Dolza



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:31 pm Reply with quote
Hmm, Interesting question! I have not been around here long enough to know if it has been asked before.

For me, it is The Big O. A lot of people found it confusing and boring. I loved the Noir setting, the facinating characters, and the english dub was really good.
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DuskyPredator



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:48 pm Reply with quote
I think it might be Clannad, I kind of hate how people will say it just another Key/KyoAni show, why bother watching it.

Though I do remember getting a bit riled up with a review of Hayate no Gotoku, and it was criticised for; bad music, very simular character designes, boring story/animation. And I whent on defending it saying that a lot of it was charm and it was wrong to expect so much from a series just meant for laughs with a side of story.

I wonder if we will be getting a certain Magnitude 8.0 fan in here. Razz
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BunnyCupCakes



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:59 pm Reply with quote
Vampire Knight.

But it's mostly the manga, not the anime (which I thought was done quite crappily) And I don't even like the series all that much anymore (it's reminding me too much of Twilight) but I still defend it and tell people to give it a chance.

It isn't as bad as people say or tend to exaggerate. It's mediocre at best with lovely art. While I do stick up for it, nor do I praise it as the best thing either. That's just going over the top for me lol.
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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:17 pm Reply with quote
Hmmm... there's really no series I get defensive about. However, there are a few specific complaints about certain series' that I'll have to run my fingers with Spartan zeal to combat.

One example of such a complaint is when people try and say Outlaw Star's ending is incomplete. These people didn't pay attention to episodes 24-26 at all. I never care if someone states they didn't like the show, but saying the ending left too many dangling strings is just ridiculous.

Another two deal with Samurai 7. People picking on Katsushiro; saying he was a weak pansy Rolling Eyes . Then there's also the ever tiresome complaint about the deaths of characters... blerg.

that's all I can think of for now.
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Starre257



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:32 pm Reply with quote
I get pretty defensive when people judge Princess Tutu by it's title. It's such a great series, but so many people just refuse to watch something with a title like that, and then tell me it's bad when they've seen none of it.

Also, people in my school like to call Shugo Chara "Sparklevomit"... I used to hate that, now I don't really. Embrace the sparkles!
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12skippy21



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:45 pm Reply with quote
If I was to say one, then I would also go with the Haruhi Suzumiya series. This maybe because I love the novels and care less how 'random' they decide to make the TV series. I kinda got sick of hearing the same complaints every week when endless eight was airing, no names mentioned Wink but how 'awesome' the first series was. I like both series. However I do look forward to the movie like a ravenous tiger.

A couple of others would be Higurashi and School Days, maybe to a lesser extent also Umineko. I defend Higurashi/Umineko because they are poor adaptations but excellent to watch despite that. A pet peeve of mine is when people moan about differences in adaptations and so drop anything which is not the source material straight away (an exception to this rule is the Dragonball movie, that was just awful on a casual level). School Days I just defend because people do not like how the series is represented on a moral standpoint. I see it as a series willing to show a spin on romantic comedies. Either that or I am bitter individual. Very Happy
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DarkRoseFairy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:05 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
I think it might be Clannad, I kind of hate how people will say it just another Key/KyoAni show, why bother watching it.


Judging from what I read on the forums of reviews for Clannad, it seem to me this is one of the titles alot of people get defensive about. I can understand since I like Clannad too(the second season was better for me though), I love the slice of life story line of different characters and Clannad After Story really got to me near the end because of how real the characters are feeling, I could feel for them.

12skippy21- I like the novels too more then the anime but I like they did something different with the anime, you can get a different experience each time which for me is fun. I can't wait for the movie.
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Niomo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:06 pm Reply with quote
I am with Skippy. I will be defending the Higurashi series until the day I die. The animation might not have been top notch, but the mystery plot, with all of its twists and turns, and the violence, I believe it is one of the best of the decade.

I know of a few people who have "heard" that it had torture (which it does, to some extent) and refuse to watch it. These people are the ones that I defend Higurashi from. They know nothing!
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Joichiro Nishi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:17 pm Reply with quote
I usually try to avoid fanboyism and understand that everybody has the right for their own opinion but I gues I get more defensive with Evangelion. The problem is that most of the criticism to Evangelion is crap: Shinji is a whimpy fag, Shinji didn't become a hero, everything turns too dark and depressing, EoE is too weird, etc. Without those elements, Evangelion would be an average mecha series. The entire point of the series was a deconstruction of the mecha genre and a criticism to otaku subculture but it seems most fanboys think that Evangelion was about Asuka's boobs and the "awesome" EVAs
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Gyt Kaliba



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:34 pm Reply with quote
I sometimes get defensive to the big SJ titles, like DB/Z/GT, YYH, Naruto, Bleach, OP, etc., because a lot of fans act like these just can't be considered good at all, just because they're aimed at a younger fanbase than other things, or because they're big and popular.

Hmm...I can't really think of anything else I get defensive about off the top of my head, other than s-CRY-ed which I try to get everyone to give a chance before condemning.
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Ggultra2764
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:41 pm Reply with quote
I tend to get quite defensive over the merits of RahXephon since enough Evangelion fans have ripped the series apart as a Eva clone and there have been a couple heated RahXephon-Evangelion debates here in the ANN forums I've been dragged into where I had to ward off criticisms of the series and provide justifiable facts over the quality of Rah (being more than an Eva clone) and Eva (Anno's direction being my major issue with the series), with some help from big Rah fan dtm42.
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JacobC
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:08 pm Reply with quote
Defensive? Usually I don't feel I have to defend anything because people are entitled to their own opinions and most times, a series will speak for itself on how good or bad it is or what the audience for it was meant to be. However, I guess there is one example that springs to mind. I find myself wanting to defend Chobits a lot, of all things.

It seems to get written off very early as a key example of the 2nd scummiest genre in anime: magical girlfriend. (The scummiest probably being harem, not counting hentai.) For some reason I love it though. Not one of my favorites and not one of the best I've seen, but I really adore that show, mostly because it's NOT a magical girlfriend show, it almost becomes a commentary on magical girlfriend shows and what they represent on the whole.

First of all, the magical girlfriend is supposed to, ditzy or not, make the male lead's life easier. She cooks for him, helps him with homework, lets him talk about his feelings and BLAH BLAH BLAH, yuck. Hideki is so happy upon finding Chii because he believes this will happen to him, and ha ha, it doesn't. He actually has to take care of Chii, and she runs him broke, takes up all his time, and endangers his life several times. It's like raising a baby, pretty much. This was BEFORE the moe craze, mind you, where helpless = attractive was actually a marketable trope. This would have been in the time where the original Kanon had failed miserably. (I think Kyo Ani is the only reason that genre succeeded, honestly.) Even if it wasn't, though, Chii has a logical reason for acting moe-moe, that most Kyo-Ani characters don't. She's a computer with a clean memory. She doesn't know how to do anything, and as it turns out, she learns more like a person than a computer, and that's not helpful to Hideki...attractive to him maybe, which is the dilemma of the series. He's falling in love with a flesh-covered robot. It's not one of those stupid "throw in the supernatural for the heck of it" things, either, (moe trademark wtf,) the entire story is about persocoms and man's relationship with technology vs. other human beings.

I think this is another theme of the series that was just a little ahead of its time, but you can definitely see it now. People would rather spend time with their electronics and online networking than interact face-to-face with people anymore. It is kind of scary, and Chobits stretches that in many interesting directions. There are characters who create persocoms to replace lost loved ones, there are people who choose persocoms over their spouses, and people who marry persocoms only to discover the detriments later. Even when those stories aren't being explored, the series is heavy with this theme. In most scenes, every person on the street is hanging on the arm of their persocom and several feet from, and ignoring, the nearest human being. Despite the foreboding of this theme in the series, we still have hope for Hideki and Chii...because, of course, Chii is different, and thus we get another theme: unconditional love makes us human (in this case a bit literally.) It's not necessarily a satire of magical girlfriend shows, but Chobits is a very interesting subversion of them. I really like it, so I hate it when people write it off and call it pandering garbage.

There's a lot of depth in Chobits, and a lot of heart and smarts. ...But yeah, you do have to endure an entire episode where Chii says "underpants" hundreds of times before you get to any of that, so I can see why people despise it and get the wrong idea.
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EricDent



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:22 pm Reply with quote
I try to defend the Moribito anime over on the Gamefaqs Adult Swim Anime board.

The people say that it is "boring", and that it "lacks action".

However these same people liked Death Note, which has even less action than Moribito.
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