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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:11 am Reply with quote
Perhaps I'm being a bit stupid here but whatever.

In many anime they will have a classroom scene where you can see the board and, if like I just did, you pause and see what t says do you notice any trends?

I notice that it is almost always either maths or English lessons. Is there any reason for this? Are those subjects considered more difficult or important? Perhaps they are hip and cool?

on a side note is any of the maths on the boards ever actually right? I remember checking out the board in episode 10 of Sola and seeing (though I may merely be remembering wrong) that it is written that X + Y = 4 and that XY = 1...which is entirely impossible, the only numbers you can multiply to equal 1 are 1 and 1 (1x1=1) and thus X and Y must both =1 for that to be true...but 1 + 1 = 2 not 4 therefore the X + Y = 4 bit os wrong...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:30 am Reply with quote
Well, they're both mandatory subjects in schools, but the thing with English is that it's a subject that stands out, not Japanese in any way, except for the translating part. I don't know what the thing is though with making anime teachers English teachers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:30 am Reply with quote
You're making the unwarranted assumption that the answer is restricted to integer values of X and Y, hentai4me.

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mathious



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:42 am Reply with quote
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on a side note is any of the maths on the boards ever actually right? I remember checking out the board in episode 10 of Sola and seeing (though I may merely be remembering wrong) that it is written that X + Y = 4 and that XY = 1...which is entirely impossible, the only numbers you can multiply to equal 1 are 1 and 1 (1x1=1) and thus X and Y must both =1 for that to be true...but 1 + 1 = 2 not 4 therefore the X + Y = 4 bit os wrong...

Did you ever think that you could possibly use negatives? Now I didn't do any math on it so I can't say that there is an answer or if there isn't.
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I notice that it is almost always either maths or English lessons. Is there any reason for this? Are those subjects considered more difficult or important? Perhaps they are hip and cool?

I don't actually notice that because I realize in some anime that they do history and I notice even more that they do P.E. So I haven't realized that the lesson is nearly always math or english so I guess you just haven't seen some of the anime that I have seen. But still I'm on summer vacation and I don't want to talk about any school even school in anime except if we're not talking about the subjects in it so that's all I'm going to say unless this subject changes a little.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:48 am Reply with quote
It seems to be the trend, but not strictly limited to. I've seen instances where other subjects have been taught, but these two seem to stand out there more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:55 pm Reply with quote
Seeing as math and English are both very important subjects, I do realize that both are seen a lot in anime. Though I see history a lot too especially about the era in Japan where there were samurais, great feudal lords, etc.

I like seeing how some anime characters attempt to read English. Such as in Shakugan no Shana where spoiler[Shana brutally corrected the English teacher's mistakes and made him cry. As well for all the other teachers if I remember correctly.] When people saw that episode everybody was like "Shana is my hero" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:15 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:
You're making the unwarranted assumption that the answer is restricted to integer values of X and Y, hentai4me.

- abunai


The board is seen at 06:46 in the episode.

from it I see that

X = 1/(2-(3^(1/2)) , Y = 1/(2+(3^(1/2))

then some Japanese

then X^? + Y^? (I don't know what the ? represents or if it is the same thing for both of them) then more Japanese.

Then X = 2 + 3^(1/2) Y = 2- 3^(1/2) (which seems odd as we already have been given X and Y......!! They've been rationalised so that DOES make sense)

Thus X + Y DOES = 4 as 2+2+3^(1/2)-3^(1/2) = 4

and it DOES = 1 when XY...of course it does, we've done this already when I rationalised the Surd.

I was thinking too literally....I fail to see how this is a question though? (the teacher asks someone to solve it) I suppose that would be explained in the Japanese I can't read.
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mathious



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:17 pm Reply with quote
I still don't see what a math problem has to do with anime.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:23 pm Reply with quote
It was in an anime episode, no one seems to have a problem when people on here discuss a philosophical point raised in an anime so why not maths raised in anime as well?

Anyway it was secondary to the main point.

As for P.E...do you mean merely sports (as that hardly counts) or actual sports science/history/psychology/etc?

AzuDai had an English teacher, as did R.O.D TV (the only lesson they seemed to do in that WAS English) and often when the specific teacher isn't mentioned it will be a maths (or physics?) problem on the board they are asked to solve.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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As for P.E...do you mean merely sports (as that hardly counts) or actual sports science/history/psychology/etc?


well where I went to school P.E. was considered an elective and electives are consider subjects. So I consider P.E. a class just like science/history/psychology/etc. I don't know where you went to school but in P.E. where I went we had to take both written and physical tests.

Anyways if you don't want this post to be locked I suggest you stick to anime because with what you and I said we got a little of subject.
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Kyokat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
For the record, if x + y = 4 and xy = 1, x = 2 plus or minus the square root of 3, and y = the inverse. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:02 pm Reply with quote
you lost me at for the record
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Kyokat wrote:
For the record, if x + y = 4 and xy = 1, x = 2 plus or minus the square root of 3, and y = the inverse. Very Happy


hence the rest of my post above, I only went for obvious answers for X and Y the first time round.

Mathious:-
just because you don't get maths doesn't mean others don't. Just because you don't like maths doesn't means others don't. Just because you are on a holiday doesn't mean others are (some of us don't go to school anymore). Just because you don't understand the maths doesn't mean you have to make a post telling us that you don't or that discussing maths (found in an anime no less, if other things raised in anime are worth discussing why not this as well?) is pointless.
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mathious



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:22 pm Reply with quote
you have no idea at how good I am at math for my age. They had to bump me up a grade and were going to bump me up another where I would have been with sophmores but they decided not to because I wouldn't be with people near my age. And I did the other comment for laughs. For now though I wish my brain cold be shut off but my mom still makes me study during summer vacation which really sucks.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:31 pm Reply with quote
Well it's nice you are good at maths then, perhaps you can appreciate that while you may not want to see it others don't mind.

Now then let's refresh what the topic is actually about:-

The subjects that are shown as studied in anime, why are they so often English, Maths and History?
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