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DemonDragonJ
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Since The Legend of Zelda is such an incredibly popular video game series, second only, in my opinion, to Final Fantasy, I feel that it should be converted into an anime series.
I know that a Legend of Zelda anime series was made several decades ago, but I have heard that it was not a very good series and has now vanished into obscurity. Now, if a Legend of Zelda anime series were to be made today, I feel that it should be more akin to series such as Scrapped Princess, Full Metal Alchemist, or Bleach, rather than Pokemon, Kirby, or Sonic, meaning that it should be aimed at older audiences and have dark, violent, and dramatic aspects, rather than containing the overdose of comedy and foolishness commonly seen in series aimed at younger audiences. What does everyone else say? Do you all think that a Legend of Zelda anime series should be made, or that it would be better not to do so? |
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joel_s95387
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For me, this would have to be one of those "see to believe" types of show. It is difficult to make an assumption for me because there are so many ways this series could go wrong, and yet there are many possibilities this could be really great... huh?
I also don't know how serious I can take a green elf in tights... but then again it really hasn't ruined the series. I can't wait for Twilight Princes. I wish they would make an anime out of Zelda, because I really like the series, but I'm almost positive it will not please all fans. |
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Spotlesseden
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Since your talking about Anime, it's a Japanese thing. Dragon Quest > all FFs and zelda.
I don’t think Zelda is not as popular as you think. At least that's why the sales number tells me. Zelda's story is always a green man save a princess would be like Kirby, or Sonic. that's what i think. i'm not saying you can't make it dark and violent, but i don't think that’s good direction to take. |
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joel_s95387
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And by doing so, you can't please all the video game fans. I would love a really dark and violent Zelda anime, but others might prefer a series aimed at kinds/younger teenagers.
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Bosque
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If i remember well, there wasn't any Zelda anime. I remember a silly cartoon where every episode consisted on link trying to get a Zelda's Kiss... ¿?
As Nintendo said sometime, the game could lose it's essence by transforming it into anime or movie. Think on this, in every Zelda game, Link doesn't speak. ¿How could an anime be made if the protagonist doesn't speak? Link always "assumes" the personality and decisions of the gamer, that can't be represented on an anime or movie. I hope that nobody makes a Zelda anime or movie for the same reasons that Nintendo said sometime they wouldn't do. |
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DemonDragonJ
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This will change topic slightly, but why does Link, or the main character of most RPG's, for that matter, not speak? Isn't that weird? |
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jamesjmiller
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I totally agree. I think putting ANY voice to Link regardless of how well it is performed would change the way the franchise is appreciated and perceived. And if it were successful in America, which is very probable regardless of quality, it may even stifle the gamers. The beauty of those games is in part due to the fact that you are so immersed in being Link that you don't notice his lack of dialogue. You pretty much become Link. And in regards to the animated series, it was not created in Japan. It was a segment of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show. which was a afternoon cartoon from late 1989 to 90 something. The Legend of Zelda part of the show was aired each Friday, with Monday through Thurday revolving around Mario and co. I remember liking it as a little boy ("Excuse me, Princess!") but it made Link look like a hornball in puberty, and each episode pit him against Gannon in an underhwelming way. No build up, no deep story, just individual battles and silly plots each week. There was even some episode of Captain N that had Link fighting Mother Brain from Metroid. Really really bad, in retrospect. But if anyone is interested in imposing an idiot Link upon themselves, you can buy all the episodes from Shout Factory here: http://www.shoutfactory.com/selection/247/the_legend_of_zelda_the_legend_of_zelda%3A_the_complete_animated_series.html They have some sample clips on this page. But don't say I didn't warn you. Does anyone really want to know that Link is ticklish? "Pillow Fight!" |
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joel_s95387
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I always thought that RPG's didn't use Voice Actors because it saves [them] a-whole-lot of money. Most RPG's can be turned into like 20 hour movies with just dialogue... of course, it's just a conspiracy, I never really believed that by not adding voices, we "become" the character. GTA III didn't give the main charcter a voice, sure they had other voices but Zelda had no voices altogether... just grunts. I'm pretty sure there were a lot of people thinking they were the guy from GTA III. Personally, I never imagined myself actually being Zelda... Link. |
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Deltakiral
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The new Final Fantasy Game the name characters and all the characters are completely voiced over. I think squaresoft shined away from doing anything until they felt they could anime characters with the sense of emotion that emcompass a voice. FFX does that and very well to a fact I sugguest you check it out.
The new Zelda make looks very dark and for the most part to be taking a completly different turn (for the better I hope) I think that with the themes that are going to provail (Dark and Light) a more gritty link is going to happen. Also there isn't going to be a young link in this game so the whole growing up aspect is eliminated sorta. But I think that an anime could be done, I think it would be necessary to branch off from Link Saving Princess and give Link depth, but I don't see why not. Wait yes I do licensing fee for Nintendo.
Till next time, Delta Kiral P.S. The old Link cartoon, way to damn funny with Link always trying to get his 'Mac' on. |
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joel_s95387
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I know, I have FFX and FFX-2 (although I haven't played it since I bought it... stupid college getting in the way). I really loved how they voiced it over, but I was still accustomed to reading the subtitles. I also think that by having voices, it attracts a bigger range of people than just the ahrdcore RPG fans. |
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jamesjmiller
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I understand what Joel is saying for sure, and while this isn't as much about the original topic, part of Link's character and mystique as a game character is his lack of voice. With most VG main characters of late you can imagine a character's voice. Describing Link's is almost impossible. If you've seen enough of the cartoon, you have that (inadequite) concept ingrained into your brain, but otherwise just the grunts. I've always thought it added charm to playing him. And for me, it helps to assume the role of the character much better than watching your typical RPG antihero complain about his lot in life. You may not feel this way personally, I know plenty of people don't, but it's much different than hearing the opinions and thoughts of who you are supposed to be playing as. And don't get me wrong, it's not better per se, just different. I loved playing as Tidus, Sora, Yuna, even Max Payne.
Link shouldn't be voiced after 20 years of popularity as the silent type. |
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Deltakiral
Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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Completely agree Link not having a voice does make you feel like your actually controlling Link and for myself I always read links (Oh so little lines of Txt) in my voices. But none the less I think that it is a project that could be attempted and also I think there could be success if they made the story gritty and very much gave Link (and Zelda) a chance to develop I would love to see that.
Till next time, Delta Kiral |
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joel_s95387
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My brother calls Link the "mute elf". He's never played the Zelda games but he's seen me play them, since Ocarina of time. I guess Link is the "silent guy who gets the job done". Would anyone watch the anime is it was announced that Link would not have a Voice Actor? In other words that Link would not be saying a word the whole anime. I think that games that require you to read, are always most memorable... the assumptions continue.
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opaquescum
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At 1 time I would have said no zelda cannot be made into a good anime it simply lacked the storyline. Now the storyline is much more fleshed out, and the more recent zeldas have started to connect lose ends. About the triforce the incarnations of link, and even the incarnations of zelda and gannon. There would have to be some things that you would still need to do.
1. The series would have to be given a set time frame. No open ended nonsense. The game is not open ended neither should the series. On one hand the dungeons are important so probabally a 3 season run would be good. 2. There would have to be a strong focus on the hero of destiny. The whole dark realm light realm. There is a good storyline there to work with. Zelda has always had decent plot twists. 3. Some connectivity between all the games. In other words take up some broken ends of old characters like the sages. Personally I think you guys have dwelled on the link not talking in the wrong way. How many nintendo games actually have alot of voice acting. This has always been a double edged sword for nintendo. First off for the longest time they made due with limited data space. Nintendo loved its carts, and when it did flip to a disk medium they still did something right and focused on fast game access. Anything that increases load time was never something nintendo wanted. Which I personally agree with. So you can say that nintendo just did what the technology determined. When you look at it like that you can see that there really was never a philosophical debate anyway. Voices cost more data space and were more resource intensive. So nintendo opted to do what was more efficent. How many lines does mario have? Think of it like the movie alien. Where you like hardly see the creature. Yeah it has the effect that it is more scarey, because it gives the viewers imagination more power to cook up something truely scarey. The real reason though is the more you see the alien the more corny it looks. Yes there is a artistic reason why it might be good, but the real reason is they did not have a choice showing the monster detracted from the movie. The same is true with all nintendo games of the past. Not doing voices may have a artistic component, but the reason was simply technical. Do we run a resource intensive voice on our 256 cart or do we add in another dungeon. Now we are to the point where nintendo probabally has the resources to do it, and not detract from loading or limited storage space. At this point its a mainstay of the series. Anyway yeah the series has a huge number of fans in the millions world wide. Nintendo fans are quite rabid. I remember being in the walmart at 7am just to get tOoT the day it came out. Me and 12 other guys waiting from them to pull out the box. Well let me put it this way I got to tell 3 other guys walking out of the store they were out. The series almost always scores really high on reviews too. I think its just a matter of time before nintendo does mine the license. Then again I think its only a matter of time before rockstar does the same with GTA. God that would be a sweet series to see in anime. We all know we would watch it. |
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Stupidman007
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Hmm, what they can do with Zelda is to make a completely new story/quest based on Zelda and Link, and maybe some other minor characters. I'm sure the name will interest the older audience, since most of them probably had experience playing the game franchise. The only big problem I can see with that is the age. In the games, Link has always been seen as a kid in his early teens. It would be more interesting if he was older, which can bring in more about his character. Also, good animation is a must have. The Kirbys, Pokemons, Digimons, Yugiohs etc... had poor animation. If Zelda was to have poor animation, it will be easy to classify it with the above mentioned. Solid animation characterizes a good anime series, and will instantly draw many fans. Nevertheless, I think it'll be a hit even if it is thought of as another Pokemon series.
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