Forum - View topicMisuse of the vintage area?
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cardcaptormanda
Posts: 237 Location: United States |
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Vintage information is to be entered to tell when an anime starts and ends it’s TV airing, when a volume of an OVA is released, and other information along these lines, correct?
Well, lately people have been entering the dates for every single R2 (and in some cases, R1) DVD release of a series. This may not be too big of a deal for shorter series, but if someone got really ambitious and entered each release for a longer series like Naruto or Inuyasha, those encyclopedia entries would look really ridiculous and cluttered. Maybe some kind of note should be made on the page a user is lead to when they try to submit vintage information not to enter things like DVD release dates for non OVA series. Here’s three examples of what I mean, and I’m sure there are more: Ah! My Goddess TV He is my Master Hellsing |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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These are nothing compared to KochiKame manga. Well, according to tempest, these information are acceptable under current site design, just don't submit North American releases, which are handled by the Releases list. |
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cardcaptormanda
Posts: 237 Location: United States |
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I saw that thread earlier, and I took it to mean that it was ok to do this with manga volumes only, since nothing about R2 DVD releases was mentioned. I mean, a manga series can be long, but it's fairly rare it will surpass 50 volumes. However, there can be literally hundreds of DVD releases for an anime series. It just seems a little silly to list each one right there on the main encyclopedia entry, and under vintage, no less.
The US DVD releases aren't listed under vintage, but in their own releases section. I guess I just don't understand how it makes sense to put the R2 DVD releases under vintage. Also, even if R2 DVD releases are allowed under vintage, someone has submitted the USA DVD release dates under vintage for: Hellsing Elfen Lied Fullmetal Alchemist Getbackers Gunslinger Girl Hanaukyo Maid Team: La Verite Inuyasha Kino no Tabi Abenobashi Mahou Shotengai Risky Safety Paranoia Agent Onegai! Teacher Onegai! Twins R.O.D. The TV SaiKano Samurai Champloo Sugar: A Little Snow Fairy Gokusen Trigun and Wolf's Rain even though that information is already in the release section a little lower on the page. This information does not need to be listed on the page twice, in both the releases and vintage areas, mere inches from each other. It really should be made much more clear exactly what kind of information is allowed to be entered under vintage. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 7585 Location: Wales |
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I'd've said that 'vintage' would refer to the date the series originally aired on TV (or went on sale in the case of OVAs) and, at most, the release date of the first DVD volume in Japan.
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
Posts: 3794 Location: Montreal |
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Seriously, what part of the instructions are unclear?
I think I'm going to change the instructions for movies, but apart from that where does it mention release dates of individual DVDs? For OAVs only, that's where. Of course, the problem here is that the information being submitted is actually true, it's just that dumping all that under "vintage" crowds out the important information. I'm going to have to add a new kind of information... |
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cardcaptormanda
Posts: 237 Location: United States |
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I found quite a few more of these. Should they be ignored, or should I submit error reports for them? |
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Michi
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 741 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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What about foreign language releases? I keep seeing French, Italian, etc. manga volume releases for manga and it seems really... well, unnecessary, because it makes the vintage list take up the whole page. |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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I am the one submitting R2 DVD releases for the Ah! My Goddess TV, and as said, it is perfectly legal to do so. |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
Posts: 3794 Location: Montreal |
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If you think about it, the vintage of a bottle of wine means when it was made. For TV series, "when it was made" is when it was first aired on TV. For OAVs, "when it was made" is when the original volumes were sold. Any information about re-releases or releases in a different format do NOT serve the purpose of vintage.
But given that there is no other place to enter that information... 仕方がないね |
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cardcaptormanda
Posts: 237 Location: United States |
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So, what you’re saying is, we shouldn’t do it, and there is no reason to do it, but... we can do it?
And what about my earlier question about submitting error reports for R1 DVD release dates entered in the vintage area, when they are already listed in the release section? I mean, someone has submitted almost 40 R1 DVD release dates in the vintage area for Inuyasha alone, even though that information is displayed just a few inches lower on the page in the releases area. Should these just be ignored, or should error reports be submitted? |
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Tempest
I Run this place.
ANN Publisher Posts: 10470 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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Report them.
We allow vintage for R2 releases because we don't have a proper place for it, but we don't want R1 DVDs entered there. -t |
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