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Key
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Characters who display lovable cuteness, comedic value, or impressive combat skills are commonplace in anime, but far rarer are the characters who triumph through intelligence, cleverness, and/or cunning. The goal of this tournament is to determine which character is the brightest of the bright and the cleverest of the clever, as determined by forumite votes. This is a tournament where the prodigies, technical whizzes, masterminds, ace detectives and top students shine.
NOTE: Since this tournament is being run on an English-language site based in North America, official English spellings, title translations, and naming conventions will be observed in any case where it matters. NOTE #2: This tournament is about assessing characters based on classical interpretations of intelligence. Body-Kinesthetic intelligence, Interpersonal intelligence, and other exotic interpretations on intelligence from Multiple Intelligence Theory do not apply here. Tournament Rules/Standards: 1. This is a single elimination tournament using a standard advancement bracket. 2. Advancement is determined by receiving a plurality of votes in a given match-up. In the event of a tie, all tying participants advance. 3. The field is divided into four lettered Groups, each representing one of the four major branches of the bracket. 4. Each voting phase will last exactly one week, beginning and ending at midnight Tuesday forum time. No votes posted after the cut-off time will be accepted, even if an official end to the round hasn’t been announced. 5. Anyone who is a registered forum member in good standing (i.e. you aren’t currently banned) is allowed to vote, regardless of whether or not you’ve participated in any previous round or group. However, you must vote for all match-ups in a particular week or none of your votes will be counted. 6. Although providing reasons for your votes is not required, it is strongly encouraged, as not everyone is going to know every character and convincing arguments have proven to be a major factor in past tournaments. 7. Key is the final arbiter of the tournament unless he specifically passes on authority to someone else. 8. Please note that this is a tournament strictly for anime characters. Deeds/characterizations offered in manga or novels which goes beyond what is shown in the anime version is inadmissible for consideration. References Since voters are not expected to know everyone going in, a Guide which briefly describes each character is being provided. This is broken down by Groups and is linked below and in the set-up post for each round. Relevant video clips will also be linked to participants beginning with Round 3, and pictures will be linked on all character postings. Group A Guide Group B Guide Group C Guide Group D Guide DerekTheRed is maintaining a data-intensive spreadsheet which analyzes participants' votes compared to their source series popularity. It can be downloaded here and is expected to be updated regularly. Round Links Round 1 Group A Group B Group C Group D Round 2 Group A Group B Group C Group D Round 3 Group A Group B Group C Group D Round 4 Group A Group B Group C Group D Round 5 (Group Finals) Groups A&B Groups C&D Round 6 Semifinals Round 7 Finals Last edited by Key on Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:07 am; edited 24 times in total |
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Key
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Round 1 Group A voting is now closed.
Results: Group A-1 L, Death Note vs. Dr. Kosaku Tokita, Paprika Winner: L Total: 26-1 Group A-2 Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan vs. Yuko Ichihara, xxxHOLiC Winner: Jimmy Kudo/Conan Edogawa Total: 18-9 Group A-3 Kazundo Gouda, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig vs. Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes franchise Winner: Kazundo Gouda Total: 23-4 Group A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil vs. Choji Suitengu, Speed Grapher Winner: Choji Suitengu Total: 14-13 Group A-5 Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth vs. Makubex, Getbackers Winner: Makubex Total: 16-11 Group A-6 Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka vs. Shima Katase, Stellvia Winner: Urumi Kanzaki Total: 19-8 Group A-7 Eyes Rutherford, Spiral vs. Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise Winner: Motoko Kusanagi Total: 22-5 Group A-8 Near, Death Note vs. Alex Rowe, Last Exile Winner: Near Total: 16-11 Group A-9 Minoru Kokobunji, Chobits vs. Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam titles Winner: Char Aznable Total: 22-5 Group A-10 Kenshin Himura, Rurouni Kenshin franchise vs. Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Winner: Ayumu Narumi 21-6 Total: Group A-11 Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon vs. Ryoko Uchida, Noein Winner: Ryoko Uchida Total: 20-7 Group A-12 Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico vs. Ichigo Morino, Please Teacher! Winner: Yurika Misumaru Total: 22-5 Group A-13 Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku vs. Dewey Novak, Eureka Seven Winner: Shuurei Kou/Hong Total: 18-9 Group A-14 Gilbert Durandal, Gundam SEED Destiny vs. Autor, Princess Tutu Winner: Autor Total: 17-10 Group A-15 Miria, Claymore vs. Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances (aka Kare Kano) Winner: Miria Total: 16-11 Group A-16 Mr. X, Argento Soma vs. Shikamaru Nara, Naruto Winner: Shikamaru Total: 18-9 Last edited by Key on Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:18 pm; edited 7 times in total |
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dtm42
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A1:
L Went with the one I know. A2: Jimmy Kudo/Conan Edogawa Knew neither, just guessed. A3: Kazundo Gohda Went with the one I know. A4: Yuko Amasawa/Isako More realistic choice. A5: Makubex Know neither, guessed. A6: Urumi Kanzaki Went with the one I know. A7: Motoko Kusanagi Went with the one I know. A8: Near Near is clearly smarter, and of course spoiler[dum dum dum.] A9: Char Aznable Char is more intelligent in a practical way, possessing great cunning. Minoru was a great engineer, and technologically savvy, but that's it. A10: Ayumu Narumi Vote against Kenshin. A11: Ryoko Uchida Seen neither, Noein is far more intellectual. A12: Yurika Misumaru Went with the one I know. A13: Shuurei Kou Seems very smart, determined and hard-working. I'm a softy for that sort of female. A14: Autor Durandel was more a child of poor writing than actually being a proper mastermind. A15: Yukino Miyazawa Went with the one I know. A16: Shikamaru Realistic choice. Last edited by dtm42 on Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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JacobC
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Key, a good fourth of those pictures are broken links. Just a heads up. I mean, being unable to see Gouda's ugly mug makes me all sad inside.
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DerekTheRed
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Perhaps more importantly, the guide link is broken.
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LydiaDianne
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WHEE! Let's get this show on the road! At least this time I saved the hard copy from the mini-game to help me remember who to vote for!
Group A-1 L, Death Note vs. Dr. Kosaku Tokita, Paprika I'm going to vote for L not because I've read/watched the series but because of what others have said. Group A-2 Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan vs. Yuko Ichihara, xxxHOLiC Yuuko because I'm a big fan of her and of Clamp and because she is very intelligent...even if others don't always understand what she says. Group A-3 Kazundo Gouda, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig vs. Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes franchise This was a guess for me but mainly because of the popularity of the series: Kazundo Gohda Group A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil vs. Choji Suitengu, Speed Grapher Another guess for me but I'm going with Yuko Amasawa. Group A-5 Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth vs. Makubex, Getbackers Because I nominated the guy and I like his intellegence, my vote is for Makubex. Group A-6 Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka vs. Shima Katase, Stellvia Because she's just so darn cute and the fact that she tried so hard to overcome her self perceived weakness, Shima Katase. Group A-7 Eyes Rutherford, Spiral vs. Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise I'm going with Eyes Rutherford because I've seen the series and I liked how he made the lead character dance to his own tune so to speak. Group A-8 Near, Death Note vs. Alex Rowe, Last Exile I'm going with Alex Rowe because 1. I've seen the series and 2. there are already two other DN characters that I'm going to vote for. Group A-9 Minoru Kokobunji, Chobits vs. Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam titles I'm going with Char Aznable because I've heard enough about him that he's a much admired person...regardless of his methods. Group A-10 Kenshin Himura, Rurouni Kenshin franchise vs. Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Ayumu Narumi because he was able to work his way out of the fiendish plots that Eyes and the others planned just for him. Group A-11 Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon vs. Ryoko Uchida, Noein Do you even have to ask on this one? Ami Mizuno because she is very smart and to keep my fangirl side happy. Group A-12 Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico vs. Ichigo Morino, Please Teacher! I don't think that she's going to last long because for a smart person, she's pretty dumb (and very single minded) but my vote is going to Yurika Misumaru. Group A-13 Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku vs. Dewey Novak, Eureka Seven My vote is going to Shuurei Kou mainly because I've seen the series. Group A-14 Gilbert Durandal, Gundam SEED Destiny vs. Autor, Princess Tutu Again, because I've seen the series and because he was very helpful to Fakir, Autor Group A-15 Miria, Claymore vs. Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances (aka Kare Kano) This was a complete guess on my part but the vote goes to Miria Group A-16 Mr. X, Argento Soma vs. Shikamaru Nara, Naruto My vote is going to Mr. X mostly because I really can't believe that someone from Naruto is all that super intelligent. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Group A-1 L, Death Note vs. Dr. Kosaku Tokita, Paprika Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-2 Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan vs. Yuko Ichihara, xxxHOLiC Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-3 Kazundo Gouda, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig vs. Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes franchise Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil vs. Choji Suitengu, Speed Grapher Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-5 Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth vs. Makubex, Getbackers Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-6 Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka vs. Shima Katase, Stellvia Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-7 Eyes Rutherford, Spiral vs. Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-8 Near, Death Note vs. Alex Rowe, Last Exile Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-9 Minoru Kokobunji, Chobits vs. Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam titles Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-10 Kenshin Himura, Rurouni Kenshin franchise vs. Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-11 Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon vs. Ryoko Uchida, Noein Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-12 Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico vs. Ichigo Morino, Please Teacher! Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-13 Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku vs. Dewey Novak, Eureka Seven Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-14 Gilbert Durandal, Gundam SEED Destiny vs. Autor, Princess Tutu Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-15 Miria, Claymore vs. Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances(aka Kare Kano) Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: Group A-16 Mr. X, Argento Soma vs. Shikamaru Nara, Naruto Voting For: Reason: Possibility of Change: |
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dtm42
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Thankyou. Makes me feel annoyed at myself for being so silly; if I had waited, I would have been able to use your nice template. |
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zawa113
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Group A-1
L, Death Note vs. Dr. Kosaku Tokita, Paprika Tough call, since I've actually seen both of these, but I'm voting for L, he figures out things very fast based on incredibly tiny details. Group A-2 Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan vs. Yuko Ichihara, xxxHOLiC Jimmy Kudo on the basis that I havn't seen/read xxxHolic but have seen Case Closed Group A-3 Kazundo Gouda, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig vs. Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes franchise Yang Wen-Li, havn't seen either, but I'll probably see Legend of the Galatice Heroes sooner than GITS Group A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil vs. Choji Suitengu, Speed Grapher *changing my vote to Suitengu, based on DerekTheRed's campaign. Since I never bothered to finish Denno Coil, I feel no guilt in changing my vote. I might watch Speed Grapher though. Group A-5 Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth vs. Makubex, Getbackers Rin Kobayashi, havn't seen Getbackers Group A-6 Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka vs. Shima Katase, Stellvia Urumi Kanzaki, havn't seen Stellvia and it probably wouldn't matter to me who Urumi was up against, I'd still probably vote for her even if I knew the other character. Group A-7 Eyes Rutherford, Spiral vs. Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise Eyes Rutherford, I've seen a few episodes of Spiral, and I know that Spiral is full of smart people Group A-8 Near, Death Note vs. Alex Rowe, Last Exile Alex Rowe, currently in the process of watching Last Exile, but I jsut don't find Near to be as smart as a lot of the other Death Note characters. Group A-9 Minoru Kokobunji, Chobits vs. Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam titles Char Aznable, going on reputation here Group A-10 Kenshin Himura, Rurouni Kenshin franchise vs. Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Ayumu Narumi, actually seen enough of both series on this one, I perfer Ayumu's logic. Group A-11 Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon vs. Ryoko Uchida, Noein Ryoko Uchida, havn't seen Sailor Moon, Uchida was quite possibly the smartest character in Noein and thought decades ahead of her time Group A-12 Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico vs. Ichigo Morino, Please Teacher! Yurika Misumaru, guide Group A-13 Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku vs. Dewey Novak, Eureka Seven Dewey Novak, guide Group A-14 Gilbert Durandal, Gundam SEED Destiny vs. Autor, Princess Tutu Autor because I've seen Princess Tutu (about 4 times) Group A-15 Miria, Claymore vs. Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances (aka Kare Kano) Yukino Miyazawa, saw a bit of Claymore, and no one struck me as super intelligent Group A-16 Mr. X, Argento Soma vs. Shikamaru Nara, Naruto Mr. X, I too have trouble beleiving someone from the Naruto universe to be more intelligent than half of group A Last edited by zawa113 on Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Amen to that. Hopefully, I can use that to my advantage because I've actually seen a lot of these shows, unlike the 40-60 relationship I had with the Duo tournament. (Having seen like 40%, and not the entire series thereof in most cases. -.-') A-1 L Sadly, I've not seen Paprika, (I will! I must!) but any inventor of sleep psychosis machines, no matter how charming and brilliant, can surpass the disturbedly delightful mind belonging to L. He posits that a victory in round 1 will be about 87%. A-2 Jimmy Kudo/Conan Edogawa This is a tougher one, but I chalk a lot of Yuuko's brilliance to the same source as Ginko of Mushi-Shi's: experience. Jimmy Kudo can't really claim that up front. He's just brilliant all on his own, not only in the cases he masters, but fooling your own girlfriend, (who is also quite brilliant) into thinking you're on vacation and NOT right under her nose for ten-something years is a big deal, too. (Not that he knows anything about women, but that's all guys for you.) A-3 Kazundo Gouda Yang Wen-Li is a tactician and a man of charisma and simplicity. But Gouda is all that and then some, (minus the simple part) and he's clever enough to get away with being horribly two-faced. He's so smart and so ahead of the game during the whole conspiracy plot of 2nd gig that he's actually scary whenever he talks. You often wonder what he's REALLY thinking even when it looks like he's being honest for once, either to the unsuspecting good guys or his own compatriots. (Well, the face is scary too. The face is freakin' creepy.) A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako Haven't seen either series in question, but out of all the characters I had to look up more info on for the tourney, Isako's profile stays MOST firmly in my mind. That girl sounds like a machine. Seriously. Crazy multi-tasking mindbending skillz. A-5 Rin Kobayashi Two wicked little children...  I simply found one to be more wicked and manipulative than the other is all. He does all that MakubeX does at a younger age, and he has better people manipulation skills. (Could be because he's cuter?)
A-6 Urumi Kanzaki I'm...not sure why dear little Shima is here honestly. She is very very intelligent and learned in the bookish/hands-on sense, but I don't remember her being particularly daring or plotting or...I don't know that she showed much initiative as a pilot. (It has, however, been a LONG time since I saw Stellvia and I saw just two episodes.) Urumi is a hoot, though, and apparently her IQ is over 200? Sweet, didn't know that... A-7 Motoko Kusanagi Eyes Rutherford, you cute little pansy in all those car commercials, you!  Well, he's clever, but he takes a backseat to the real brain-baby in Spiral, who is also in this bracket...anyway. Motoko is a top competitor period if only for showing intelligence in so many fields, tech work, battle tactician, head knowledge, negotiations, deduction skills, and hey, even martial arts and combat takes a fair amount of know-how in order to react quickly, as she often has to. (Batou, just leave her alone...)
A-8 Near Eh, this is a tough call, but Near does prove himself to be brilliant. The BIGGEST problem I have with him is one I'll bring up fairly often in this tourney, I'm sure. He's smart, but not proactive about it. Still, the same could be said of the languishing, brooding Alex Rowe, so I'll give Near the nod. Hey, in Near's favor, throwing money around, (sometimes literally) is very proactive! 
A-9 Char Aznable Proactivity gets Minoru here. They're probably equally "smart," but Minoru is essentially the "exposition man" of Chobits, and even spoiler[his circuits get overloaded by a certain hacker otaku late in the series.] Char keeps himself busy through several seasons of war, and looks good doing it. A-10 Ayumu Narumi I could almost call him Jimmy Kudo Jr. (Oops, that's more like that Osakan rival of Kudo's. So Ayumu is Jimmy Jr Jr.?) He has an uncanny ability to solve any puzzle without losing his glum and angsty cool, even when he finds himself attached to explosives or suspected of foul play. Comparing him to Kenshin, who is probably less intelligent and crafty than his kindred spirit Vash the Stampede who isn't even in this tournament, makes it an easy choice. (I mean, c'mon, Vash fights with his brain and doesn't kill anybody AND he calculates bullet trajectories/complex plant chemical equations in his head and he's not here...I just don't think it's his or Kenshin's game.) A-11 Sailor Mercury Just because what little I saw of Ryoko colored me unimpressed. A lot of those kids are bright, and she's too emotional and inactive for my tastes to be a superbrain. But Sailor Mercury's, um...smart. 
A-12 Ichigo Morino Haven't seen Please Teacher! (someone wanted me to but the subject matter made me turn it down at the time...) but this is very much a vote AGAINST Yurika. I mean, she's like Shima of Stellvia in that she's booksmart, and she makes some life-saving decisions, but...eh. She's really spacey, really sweetsy, and for as many life-saving decisions as she makes, she also pulls a lot of crap that sends the whole boat on red alert and gets her and anyone causing issues for Akito in deep trouble. She's capable (sometimes), but not brilliant. A-13 Shuurei Kou Just started watching this show. That is a strong female character for you, and half her brains is in her people skills. She knows how to work a chain of command in a society that's hell-bent on telling her what kind of person she is when she's much more than that. Even if that weren't the case, though, I'd vote against Dewey. I mean, he does spoiler[start a program or two brainwashing children] but he is largely inactive for the series' run, and that's a crime for a master tactician. At least put in appearances in your own show. A lot of his plots go through, honestly, because the military state is ripe for ideas like his anyway. It could have been anybody in his position to put forth the changes he did. A-14 Gilbert Durandal This one...I could be swayed on. Autor seemed like too much of an exposition man/mentor figure to me, not a true working mastermind, so I stuck with what I was familiar with. Still, Gilbert is a valid choice given his brilliance as a politician and tactician. Yay for propaganda! A-15 Miria I don't care for either of these two, but this is a vote against Yukino. She's bright and sometimes perceptive...but that's it. She's actually pretty oblivious in many regards and being game show-worthy isn't enough for me. A-16 Shikamaru He comes into his own overtime, though I'd be hard-pressed to call him a genius when we first meet him. Actually, his evolution as a character is almost inspiring, and one of the better parts of Naruto. Thumbs-up from me. ...And...who's this Mr. X? He was hard to even find information on.... |
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Key
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All of the broken links should be fixed now. (The big problem was that I keep forgetting that any .jpg file I put through Windows Paint comes out as .JPG instead when you save it off, and that's not the same when it comes to file names.)
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dtm42
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And that's why I voted for Shikamaru, despite not being very impressed with him. Hardly anyone knows who Mr. X is, and I'm not surprised. A mysterious and rarely seen character from a little-known EVA-clone isn't going to get much love, no matter how clever. Obscurity comes with that sort of territory. It's really hard, actually. I have to balance my feelings against the harsh call of realism. And then, to make matters worse, if I don't know either character, I have to put my faith in chance. Cold, sneering, uncaring, emotionless chance. And if I pick wrong, I have to live with the anguish of reflecting on what could have been. Ai ai ai. |
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Time for me to let loose on this tourney.
Group A-1: L (Death Note) Besides by reputation amongst fans, L does all he can to maintain a keen sense of logic regardless of how unusual it makes him look to others. Dr. Chiba might be more intelligent in the field of science. But, he isn't as analytical with detail as L can gather up from observations. Group A-2: Conan Edogawa (Detective Conan) I haven't seen xxxHolic, but I've read up on details of Yuko's character. Conan/ Shinichi relies on his keen observation of the most obscure details to figure out the actions of criminals so he as a detective, he is pretty skilled in analytical details and takes the initiative with what he discovers. Yuko, while intelligent, seems to be the type to let things progress which detracts from how I would want to view her. Group A-3: Kazundo Gouda (GITS: SAC 2nd GIG) Taking advantage of political tensions and knowing how to manipulate them in his favor was on a grand enough scale for me to pick Kazundo. Group A-4: Yuko Amasawa (Denno Coil) Haven't seen Speed Grepher, but learning about Choji made me see him as a guy just consumed with revenge. Yuko, on the otherhand, seems like quite a hacker with her computing skills and has me tempted to wanna check out Denno Coil in the near future. Group A-5: Rin (Please Save My Earth) Being able to manipulate all the folks he knew in his past life towards suffering had a grand scale of cleverness compared to the hacking skills of Makubex. Group A-6: Urumi Kanzaki (Grand Teacher Onizuka) Being a natural genius, Urumi's intelligence surpasses all her teachers and she's clever enough to even get things into school which other kids with a bad reputation wouldn't have the smarts to do. Being able to keep a guy like Onizuka under control with some clever tricks earns her some cleverness points as well. I haven't seen Stellvia so from what I've heard of Shima, she doesn't seem as clever with her brains as Urumi would be. Group A-7: Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell) Motoko's skills with computers and robotics as well as being clever enough to cheat death on a few occasions surpass the clever and intellectual talents I've seen from Eyes. Group A-8: Near (Death Note) Throughout Last Exile, I had the feeling that Alex just sat around or showed off his accuracy with weaponery so I couldn't see what made him such a smart or clever captain. While nowhere as clever as L, I've seen enough cleverness from L to give him the vote for this match. Group A-9: Char Aznuble (Mobile Suit Gundam) Besides his reputation amongst fans, Char's quite the capable commander and the manipulative fellow. Having both the intelligence and cunning to lead easily surpasses the computer and persocon making talents of Minoru. Group A-10: Ayumu Narumi (Spiral) Ayumu has the analytical skills of a detective allowing him to get out of any threatening situation the Blade Children throw him in. Kenshin's only analytical during the heat of battle to observe his opponent's fighting style. Group A-11: Ryoko Uchida (Noein) With enough knowledge on quantum mechanics and being able to understand science decades ahead of her time, Ryoko surpasses Sailor Mercury in intelligence. Group A-12: Yurika Misumaru (Nadesico) Morino may have emotional maturity and been clever enough to try manipulating a relationship for her friend. But having the capability to become a captain allows Yurika's talents to outshine Morino due to having a position of authority and responsibility. Group A-13: Dewey Novak (Eureka 7) Dewey took advantage of his military status by manipulating many of the planet's human population to believe he had a just cause while only trying to push along his own radical agenda against his brother, Holland. Group A-14: Gabriel Durandel (Gundam Seed Destiny) Granted I've seen neither series. But from reading about Gabriel, he seemed like a brilliant scientist who took advantage of his status in PLANTS to manipulate folks to do his bidding until they are of no further use to him. Autor didn't seem to have anything on that level of cunning and intelligence. Group A-15: Yukino Miyazawa (Kare Kano) Besides being one of my favorite anime heroines, the fact she could hold up the facade of being a smart, friendly, and athletic girl since being a child makes Yukino quite the cunning gal. Group A-16: Shikamaru (Naruto) Mr. X didn't have anything that stood out for me when I researched on him. Seeing enough of the tactics Shikamaru did to outsmart his foes on enough occasions, the kid's smart and clever enough to get my vote. |
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A-1: L. Without a doubt, he is one of the smartest characters I can atone to seeing in an anime series. He is spoiler[having to battle one of the more sinister of villains, one who doesn't know how deep they are, though he comprehends that is risking his life to try and put this criminal to justice.]
A-2: Yuko Ichihara. I was thinking about going with Jimmy, but there is lot more I think that Yuko has to deal with, on a vast power level compared to where Jimmy is at. That's just my thoughts. A-3: Kazundo Gouda. The guy is spoiler[trying to bring down the government of Japan, how much smarter could you be than that?! At that particular level, making Section 9 have to think even harder to try and outsmart him. Which is what makes him a very intelligent person.] A-4: Choji Suitengu. I actually don't know either character from either of the series, so I am just picking one. A-5: Makubex. I know of the series Getbackers, although this is based on what I have read of the manga, but still Makubex is a cyber genius so to speak. A-6: Shima Katase. Don't know either of the series, but the cutie genius appeals. A-7: Motoko Kusanagi. First of all, how could you have two masterminds from a series like Ghost in the Shell in the same bracket? But whatever. Motoko Kusanagi spoiler[not only has the looks to do her job, but also the training and thinking factor as well, as she has to many times go into plan B, which usually would take quite a bit of time to come up with, but she is capable of doing it in a matter of seconds when time may be running out on something important.] A-8: Near. Another person that I am shocked to find in the same bracket as somebody from the same series, especially when it's freaking damn Near versus L! WTF!? Near spoiler[clearly proves himself to be the successor of L, although there are the times when he can't do it alone, when he knows he can use all the help he can get. Still, he is the one who is able to outwit even Light.] A-9: Minoru Kokubunji. Haven't seen either series, but I know of Chobits. A-10: Kenshin Himura. Haven't seen the other series and I haven't seen this series to remember anything to summarize kenshin in a good way, but I still vote for him. A-11: Aya Mizuno. Haven't seen Sailor Moon in forever either, but I still like the series, so I vote for Sailor Mercury! A-12: Yurika Misumaru. Haven't seen either series, but I know a little bit more about Nadesico through the manga, so I vote for Yurika. A-13: Shuurei Kou-Hong. Dewey spoiler[doesn't know crap about what he's doing, even though he's practically the number one guy with a plan to take over the world or whatever he was trying to accomplish.] A-14: Gilbert Durandal. Don't know either series, so I just went with a random pick. A-15: Miria. C'mon, I love Claymore the series, and I don't know about the other one, so... A-16: Mr. X. Don't know either series, but I like the goatee. |
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L, Death Note vs. Dr. Kosaku Tokita, Paprika Voting For: L, Death Note Reason: Guide. Possibility of Change: Medium Group A-2 Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan vs. Yuko Ichihara, xxxHOLiC Voting For: Jummy Kudo/Conan Edogawa, Case Closed/Detective Conan Reason: VOTE CHANGED Possibility of Change: High Group A-3 Kazundo Gouda, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig vs. Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes franchise Voting For: Yang Wen-Li, Legend of the Galactic Heroes Reason: It’s difficult to say who is more intelligent as I don’t know Kazundo Gohda. However, Yang Wen-li’s adroitness allowed him to survive longer than he would if he wasn’t clever. Had it not been for his insight and admittedly Dusty little help he would have died at the time when the prequel My Conquest is the Sea of Stars took place. Even Reinhard acknowledge Yang Wen-li to be a capable tactician. spoiler[ The best example of it is the fact that after the recapture of Iserlohn by Yang Wen-li Reinhard himself led army to fight with Yang Wen-li’s fleet even though Yang Wen-li’s fleet was at a great numerical disadvantage. However, neither Reinhard nor his admirals were able to defeat him and Yang Wen-li died undefeated. After the death of Yang Wen-li, Reinhard didn’t want to fight with remains of Free Plants army, which the Yang Wen-li’s fleet was, because without such a skillful tactician it was like flogging a dead horse.] Yang Wen-li didn’t gain the monikers “The magician” “Miraculous Yang” for nothing, after all. I think he deserves my vote Possibility of Change: Slim Group A-4 Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil vs. Choji Suitengu, Speed Grapher Voting For:Yuko Amasawa/Isako, Dennō Coil Reason: I havn't seen Speed Grapher Possibility of Change:Medium Group A-5 Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth vs. Makubex, Getbackers Voting For: Rin Kobayashi, Please Save My Earth Reason: I haven't seen either, so my vote is based on guide Possibility of Change: High Group A-6 Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka vs. Shima Katase, Stellvia Voting For: Urumi Kanzaki, Great Teacher Onizuka Reason: Like above Possibility of Change: High Group A-7 Eyes Rutherford, Spiral vs. Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise Voting For: Eyes Rutherford, Spiral Reason: I'm going with the one I know Possibility of Change: Medium Group A-8 Near, Death Note vs. Alex Rowe, Last Exile Voting For:Alex Rowe, Last Exile Reason: Sometimes I had an impression that Near the way Near solved things was too far-fatched Possibility of Change: Medium Group A-9 Minoru Kokobunji, Chobits vs. Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam titles Voting For:Char Aznable/Casval Rem Daikun, UC-related Gundam Reason: guide Possibility of Change: Slim, I'm not a fan of Chobits Group A-10 Kenshin Himura, Rurouni Kenshin franchise vs. Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Voting For: Ayumu Narumi, Spiral Reason: Ayumu is good at solving puzzles and I don't think Kenshin is that smart. Possibility of Change: No Group A-11 Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon vs. Ryoko Uchida, Noein Voting For: Amy Mizuno (aka Sailor Mercury), Sailor Moon Reason: out of sentiment, and I don't remember Ryoko Uchida Possibility of Change: High Group A-12 Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico vs. Ichigo Morino, Please Teacher! Voting For: Yurika Misumaru, Martian Successor Nadesico Reason: guide Possibility of Change: High Group A-13 Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku vs. Dewey Novak, Eureka Seven Voting For: Shuurei Kou/Hong, The Story of Saiunkoku Reason: Unlike most of shojo heroines she had a brain she didn't always use it but still. Possibility of Change: Medium Group A-14 Gilbert Durandal, Gundam SEED Destiny vs. Autor, Princess Tutu Voting For: Autor, Princess Tutu Reason: because I don't like Gundam SEED Destiny Possibility of Change: Slim Group A-15 Miria, Claymore vs. Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances(aka Kare Kano) Voting For: Yukino Miyazawa, His and Her Circumstances Reason: I'm going with the one I know Possibility of Change: Medium Group A-16 Mr. X, Argento Soma vs. Shikamaru Nara, Naruto Voting For: Mr. X, Argento Soma Reason: Guide and I don't like Naruto Possibility of Change: Medium Last edited by Aylinn on Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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