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Nate148
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fudge sony this is just evil shit.
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mglittlerobin
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People who pirate anime don't care because free is free, and people don't want to pay for Crunchyroll when you can get the anime free, albeit illegally with an adblocker on so you see no ads. |
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BadNewsBlues
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While it’s different nothing tops the cringe of people whining about the Dracula X Chronicles redoing both the voice acting and to a lesser extent the dialog for Symphony Of The Night. |
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Zimmer
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Beowulf47
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Meh, as long as I can get my anime fix who cares?
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Kadmos1
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I wish the A.I. trend in many areas would just die!
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Lord Geo
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If you're perfectly fine with, at best, stilted translations for subtitles or, at worst, completely unreadable translations for subtitles because the AI can't figure out certain subtleties. Maybe you're the one who's looking forward to an anime that's conceived of by, written by, scored by, directed by, animated by, voiced by, & translated by nothing but AI. I mean, meh, as long as you can get your anime fix who cares? |
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Ggultra2764
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Crunchyroll milking AI for translating anime? Should go as well as Microsoft thinking they can go hard on AI with their next OS.
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encrypted12345
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People have lower standards for a literally free service, and such sites are only for convenience. A pirate could easily download the files through torrents and bypass such streaming sites entirely, or do even an even lower effort tactic and get a good adblocker. |
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Waalex11
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Their translations are bad, but this is disgraceful. Hire better translators.
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BigOnAnime
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animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-08-19/southeast-asia-india-fans-disproportionately-affected-by-pirate-site-kissanime-closure/.163071 Anyway, as I mentioned on the previous page, if you know how to torrent, you can skip the illegal streaming sites entirely (where most of their content from the legal streaming era is legal streaming rips), and avoid ads without needing to use an adblocker. It's astounding how people would rather go to sites with malicious ads and use an adblocker than learn how to torrent (it is very simple), and you can pick your subs. If Crunchyroll goes with AI subs, these pirate sites will end up with the exact same bad AI subs, but the ones with torrents will have fansubs when they exist (fansubs massively declined in popularity following simulcasts). This could lead to an increase in piracy rather than a decrease.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=21881076#post21881076 So yes, people do care, especially when machine translation has shown it's not good. Also some more examples of what happens when the subs are not good. https://www.crymore.net/2015/04/18/officialsubs-review-funimation-owari-no-seraph-episode-02/ https://pastebin.com/h11nt5ri https://www.crymore.net/2015/07/22/translation-review-horriblesubs-charlotte-01/ https://twitter.com/NJ_/status/730042109793861632 (If anyone thinks Japanese companies doing the translations themselves can never go wrong, think again.) These were translated by humans, yes, but I'd sooner trust a human than a machine that can't figure out something as simple as whether or not to use "Ms." or "Mrs." instead of "Mr." when dealing with honorifics like "san", and sometimes even translates names when it shouldn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6K-FOK_MrY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLhllBAvWQ |
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milkyy
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QUIT.
GIVING CRUNCHYROLL. YOUR. MONEY. |
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Traptrix Lover
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Technology illiteracy is a widespread issue in the workforce as a whole. Younger generations like Gen Z grew up entirely reliant on smart devices and apps doing everything for them so for a lot of them even basic computer skills are foreign almost to the point that we've circled back around to the Baby Boomer generation of not knowing how to use computers, scanners, printers, etc. Millenials and younger Gen Xers grew up with the emerging computer and internet technology so torrenting (or God forbid mIRC file sharing) isn't that big of a deal.
The only way this makes sense is if translators are purposely doing a bad job in some kind of weird hostage-situation where they release a list of demands that had a bullet point of them saying they won't stop putting internet memes or censoring shows until they get a pay raise. I doubt that's actually happening and it's more of a personal choice to do all those things. All this would result in is giving them more money to do such things which doesn't sound good either. But I do agree that AI alone probably won't fix this issue. We saw with the whole Gemini thing that companies can program AI to be bias and put so many restrictions on them that they become completely useless and put out low-quality stuff. The best thing for fans to do is to continue being vocal about wanting good translations. We've gotten hard confirmation that companies notice feedback on social media and certain practices have already been banned across the industry due to fan complaints so it is working. "Voting with your wallet" is all fine and dandy, but raising awareness and causing a buzz makes it so they can't ignore it and sweep it under a rug. |
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Ushio
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Yeah ban technology! we all need to go back to being subsistence farmers! News flash all the jobs we have today is because of technology replacing the terrible crappy jobs of the past. Most of the jobs people will be doing in 10 years, in 20 years haven't been invented yet! |
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DaemonTargaryenDoggy
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I don't think they are profitable in this economy. Streaming in general like Netflix and disney+ are losing money. But Crunchyroll going under doesn't impact thr industry much. That is because crunchyroll is only on a production committees for a few shows. Everything else they license. Crunchyroll going helps the industry more than anything since streaming impacted blu ray sales which most late night animes profit from. |
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