Forum - View topicNEWS: No Anime Submitted for Animated Feature Oscar Nominations
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Primus
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It's a shame Disney didn't bother with Arriety this year, since it likely could've gotten a nom given the weaker Pixar and Dreamworks fair this year.
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msgundam2
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Only American Children CGI cartoons win anyway.
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ajr
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To be fair, I think Spirited Away won back in '02 or so.
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Tenchi
 Posts: 4541 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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It's a shame Keichi Hara's Colorful film, which I saw at the Ottawa International Animation Festival, hasn't yet found a North American distributor to submit it to the Academy (and next year will be too late, since it was a 2010 film in Japan). It wasn't exactly a feel-good anime film, but it ended on a positive note, and I liked it.
My favourite anime film that I've seen this year is certainly The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, not that the movie would make a lick of sense to anyone not already familiar with the franchise, so I'm not surprised it was submitted. I've usually seen at least seven or eight films on the shortlist by the time it's released, but, this year, I've only seen Cars 2, Kung-Fu Panda 2, and Rango. I'd catch up on at least Rio, but I haven't been able to rent movies lately due to all the Blockbusters having closed. I'd say Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked will be trimmed from the shortlist once it's released, as previous films in the series have been, due to too many live-action segments, but, then, what's The Smurfs doing on the list, as that one's been out for months? I also thought the Academy wasn't going to nominate motion-capture "animated" films, but both Mars Needs Moms and The Adventures of Tintin are on there. I guess Spielberg was successful at convincing the Academy that motion capture *is* animation, but he won't be successful at convincing me to see creepy, zombie-eyed Tintin. |
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Animerican14
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Were there any anime released in US theaters in any significant capacity in this past year to begin with?
Anyway... hey, another rare year where Pixar isn't a shoe-in, not even as far as nominations are concerned (or are there enough eligible animated features this year to warrant a five-nominee list?). Interestingly enough, Cars 2 is facing off against Happy Feet 2, just like Cars faced off against Happy Feet in 2006. (Fun fact: I actually liked Cars more, and was somewhat disappointed Happy Feet won.) It'll be pretty cool if Tintin ends up getting a nomination and even winning.... if I'm not mistaken, that film's been received super-well in Europe, hasn't it? Not to mention that it looks ridiculously gorgeous and fluidly animated in the trailers... and there isn't as much uncanny valley-entering as I thought there'd be to boot! |
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TitanXL
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I don't see the big deal.. these are the people who think shows like Simpsons, Camp Lazlo, and South Park are "best animated show of the year" material. We obviously can't take their opinions seriously.
The fact animation only gets a throwaway sub-category kinda shows how little the west cares about these things. They just give the movie award to whatever Dreamworks/Disney/Pixar movie came out that year and give the TV award to Simpsons or whoever and they can call it a day. I personally only care what the Japanese awards for animation are, since it's an actual artform in Japan. Last edited by TitanXL on Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:06 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Not to nitpick or anything, but even though it probably was in 2002 (not sure on the details myself) that is almost a complete decade ago. But much like TitanXL excellently put it, the shows that really do well in the States and that are established likely are prone to win more awards than a animated show that is not that popular and really not that established. Although anime is more accepted (and more popular as well) these days as opposed to the 00's and 90's, so maybe a series will be picked. Frankly, I'd like to see a anime show that isn't from Disney/Dreamworks/Pixar be nominated to make it interesting and create some variety, but I think most of us know there is plenty of politics behind what becomes picked and what doesn't, so who knows if that will ever happen any time soon. Like TitanXL also stated, animation really only goes receives a throwaway sub-category awards, so even if something was nominated, it could very be any show, regardless of quality. I honestly wish animation would have more of a positive light and not seen as it is all for kids and the like. Virtually any person can create a comedy, action or drama show or movie. I am not saying it's easy, but its not exactly that challenging either. Whether the show is good or not is a completely different story all together however. But compared to anime, it is hardly as easy even with a simple comedy show. Yes, some of it is computer animated, but first you must have characters, dialog and of course some sort of plot. These days, you have to be very careful about your characters because if they are to similar to someone else's work, your likely to get sued for copyright infringement and while that isn't bad in itself, it has a long lasting impact and no matter how big or small the case was, your creditability will have taken a hit. How big of a hit is completely dependent on how big the infringement was. There are other factors, but this is why I think anime should be taken slightly more seriously and not written off (by some, not all) as more of the same. |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4541 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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Keep in mind that it's not that the Academy has shunned anime this year, it's that no distributors filled out the paperwork to submit an anime film, not that there's been much in the way of anime released in theatres this year for anyone to submit.
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Pepperidge
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It's a shame that Disney isn't bothering with Arietty. With Pixar not putting out award material this year, you'd think they'd be pushing that one.
Oh well, go Rango! |
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GATSU
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No one's mentioning the obvious. Why wasn't Redline submitted?!
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kakoishii
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 Wow, see when you say things like this, it makes it hard for me to take you seriously. Not any person can create a comedy, action or drama show. If any person could, then any person would, and any person doesn't. See, the disdain you're showing for live action entertainment is starting to look a lot like the disdain you've noted that people show toward anime/animation. Both have their gems and their crap and both take a lot of work to put together. Not just any person would be equipped with the incredible task of putting either together. Don't get it twisted.
Last edited by kakoishii on Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:10 am; edited 1 time in total |
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R315r4z0r
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Even if a film was submitted, I doubt that it would win. You have to really look at it from the public's perspective. They aren't voting for an anime film to win because they don't like it... it's because the nomination of the anime is the first time they have ever heard of the title.
Think about it, in what densely public place have you ever honestly seen an ad for an anime release? I'm not talking in places like game stores or movie stores... I mean actual posters in the streets or commercials on TV. An anime could be the greatest thing in the history of forever... but it won't do any good if nobody has ever heard of it. Today I read that a LEGO MMORPG is being shutdown due to low amounts of subscribers. You know what my first thought was? It was "There is a LEGO MMORPG?" That's how the public sees it... and you can't really expect them all to follow anime news... |
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penguintruth
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I usually never hear of the live-action nominees until they're announced. Half the movies that win awards are movies nobody's heard of or seen. |
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TitanXL
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Is that even out yet? |
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ikillchicken
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I have no issue with Pixar movies routinely winning this award. They absolutely deserve it. I do wish they'd ease the eligibility requirements though. As it stands it's pretty much impossible for a lot of anime movies to even be considered and while Pixar may absolutely deserve it, the same can't be said of certain other nominees.
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