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Dr. Needlove
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I know alot of initial d fans are mad @ TP changing some of the stuff to "americanize" the series. Now i agree that some of the music is cheezy but if TP had not brought it over, I would have never heard of it, and not be the fan i am of the series. So all i am saying is everyone has their opinion of TP's so called "rape" of Initial D, but i'm sure i am not the only one who has started watching Initial D this way...
Thanks for reading, Dr. Needlove |
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Louie-kun
 Posts: 420 Location: I'm back. |
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I take the less painful route, and just watch the subbed version. The only thing that was really changed was a softening of Mayumi's "Poppa".
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Dr. Needlove
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To each their own, i'm just tired of people bashing ToykoPop because they are trying to bring over something to the mainstream. It's like every Initial D Site i go to 50% of the threads are on why TP is so bad. Like i said this is my opinion and i will continue to buy the TP ones because they come with both Origianl and "Enhanced" Versions.
Thanks, Dr. Needlove |
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Gekigangar3
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I'm not really a fan of Intitial D (I read a few of the mangas and wasn't as into it as some people) but I think that if "Americanizing" it will make new anime fans who will put more money into the industry then what TP is doing is fine. And like Louie-Kun said there are the subtitled versions of it available.
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Dilandau
 Posts: 525 Location: Tea House |
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Tokyopop had to pay big bucks for this title because of its perceived marketability. They changed it (and then changed it some more....and more) to try to get TV to pick it up. Which failed. Initial D is a rather flop in TP's eyes.
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Haiseikoh 1973
 Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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Tokyopop picked up Initial D due to the Fast and Furious movies and the increasing Import Tuner Scence. However, as everyone has pointed out, TP turned Initial D into....Quote Cornholio: "Do you have TP for my bunghole?"
Among some of the main sticking points is the music. Instead of keeping the Eurobeat soundtrack (Which has mostly english sung songs, save for the Opening and End theme songs and other misc. insert songs) they had DJ Milky make completly new music, which doesn't seem to be "in synch" with the animation. |
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Dr. Needlove
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I agree that some of the music does not mesh with the scenes but some of it does....
Dr. Needlove |
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darkhunter
 Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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True that fans of the series who already seen it might be dissappointed in the name change/music change. But i know a lot of people that became fan after TP released Initial D. I don't even mind the name changes, as long as the story is solid and the animation consistent.
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crion
Posts: 41 Location: London, UK |
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Speaking about the changes. Has anyone seen the 6th volume of the series yet? I'm wondering how TP handled the material in this volume (in classic version, not tricked out), since some of the dialog is a bit racy (no pun intended). |
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Dr. Needlove
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Hmm, well i don't remeber him being in vol 6, i will go back and watch it and give you an up date....
In responce to darkhunter, i agree i became a fan after buying a used copy of vol 1 @ Blockbuster.... Dr. Needlove |
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Fenrir
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Frankly I despise the rape of initial d that tokyopop did. First of all they raped the show to get it on tv which didn't happen. The dub script is terrible. Heck even the subtitled script isn't even translated properly. They did a lot more then just change the names and the music. I have friend of mine that perfer dubs and after I showed them the Japanese they were like what the hell did they do that for. I like most initial d fans despise what tokyopop did because they went beyond just changing the names and some music. They took a show and butchered it to make lots of money and even edited the classic version I'm glad it blew up in their faces.
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Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
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Well, I'm about as deep into Initial D as they come (even moderate Automotive Forums's Initial D forum) and I for one understand that Tokyopop was the one who got hosed in all this business.
Yes, they were trying to make lots of money with Initial D. Guess what, that's what the Japanese companies were doing too. That's why the series has model kits, diecast, RC cars, decals, video games, CD's, and all manner of paraphenalia. Heck, there's Initial D cell phone covers. Tokyopop actually wasn't just sitting down with cable companies, they were talking broadcast television. They took one of the biggest gambles on one of Japan's most lucrative series and got stabbed in the back by the networks after they'd poured countless dollars and resources into retooling the series for television according to network specs. T-Pop execs KNOW that Initial D is severely flawed for a DVD release. But it was too late to double back and it'll be a while before anything can be done. What happened was T-pop was a running back who ran to the endzone only to have the quarterback blitz. |
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MasterFuu
 Posts: 434 Location: Phoenix, AZ |
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How can I put this? Well, I watched all of Initial D and also following the 4'th stage. The English dub fits well with the rap. LOL nevermind it doesn't but still better then nothing. I think if some TV station would show the "American" Initial D it would be huge success. The sad thing is that most people who don't know what anime is or know very little of it(most adult swim watchers for example) would not like the techno/trance/eurodance. So TP did the most logical thing by changing the music to rap. While I hate to admit it, it all makes sense at the end if you look at it from "Business" perspective.
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Haiseikoh 1973
Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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Waitwaitwaitwait. Your saying that a network intentionally screwed over Tokyopop and made Initial D the way it is?? Okay, as much as I wish to believe it (I was thinking a theory along the same lines, only I thought it might be with Adult Swim and Reign: the Conqueror.), I smell somethings not right. Provide a legit source please. Or even hint at which Network was the culprit. |
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ANN_Bamboo
ANN Contributor
 Posts: 3904 Location: CO |
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Oh? You speak Japanese fluently enough to know this? On the one hand, I think it's bad that Tokyopop didn't release a straight-up dubbed version of Initial D. This really alienate a lot of dub lovers, and it's pretty bad practice for the company, IMO. But on the other hand, the Tricked Out version isn't that bad. It feels like a show that would work great on MTV or something, and it has a lot of mainstream appeal. The actors really step into their roles, and the whole atmosphere is just really laid back and cool. I think they should've released three language tracks, and put a straight dub on one of them. If I had never heard of Initial D before, I'd be sucked in by the Tricked Out version. It's really not that bad, and if it was shoved onto a disc as an alternative 3rd track, it would've been a good addition. |
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