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Asaqe
Posts: 43 Location: The "anti-4kids" resistance |
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Hello I am asaqe I have came here to put up an advertisement to help in today situation of battling 4kids, 4kids is a dubbing company(dub? more like americanizing) who has licensed several animes and have americanized, kiddieized and butcherd the animes to a deplorable degree that makes former funi look good. Few Have spoken against 4kids but refuse to take any action against it instead we are at our keyboards refusing to do anything look at ourselves where is the old days when FUNI was a terrible company and destroyed anime but we decided to stand up to them as a united force? Our modern generation is now apathic and it does nothing to help bring uncut anime 4kids has to our stores. We have to repeat this to make 4kids understands that we will not be swept aside while they destroy anime one by one. 4kids examples of crimes are terrible, they try to cover the truth from children, forcing anime fans to resort to underground dealing just for an uncut episode of YGO, and Americanizing EVERYTHING we must stop them for every second we waste 4kids dreams of an Americanized world come soone I ask you to join this alliance to help fight this threat. VIVA ANIME FREEDOM
http://www.dbzoa.net/forum/showthre...25&pagenumber=1 |
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lianncoop
Past ANN Contributor
 Posts: 1705 Location: Indiana |
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Uuuhhhh.......
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LW
 Posts: 26 Location: finalsavepoint.com |
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If you don't like what 4Kids publishes than you don't have to buy it, but you have no right to say that they are destroying anime. All they try to do is publish anime in the US and kids can enjoy without them being offended. Is there any problem with that?
I don't know why you're making such a big deal just because anime like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh are being edited. |
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Nagisa
Moderator
 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Jesus Christ, not this again.
News flash, pal: the anime that 4Kids licenses was just as kiddy in Japan as it is in America. The only edits being made are for mild fanservice and cultural barriers, because little kids (the target audience for these shows all over the frickin' world!) generally don't like to read translators' liner notes. Second news flash: 4Kids is not an "evil butchery company" that's "committing crimes" against anime. No, they're a children's entertainment company that licenses children's anime for American distribution. They aren't going after every anime and they're not going after shows like Hellsing and Ghost in the Shell. They're going after kiddy shows, licensing kiddy shows, airing kiddy shows in America and marketing them as kiddy shows! Get over your insecurity. If you like 4Kids' anime, then watch them. So you like kiddy shows, big deal, get over it. There's absolutely no need to make excuses like this and give the rest of the anime community a bad name. |
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nvspike
 Posts: 48 Location: Vancouver, B.C. |
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[edit: damn, Nagisa beats me too it]
Um, I could understand if you were trying to take Tokyopop to task for butchering Initial-D's dub, as that's marketed to an adult audience. But face it. 4kids is doing exactly what their title is claiming, licensing shows and making them fit north american standards for child viewable material. There's a market for this and they're filling it. Supply and Demand. Either attack North America's peculiar morals that call for such censorship, or be quiet. Attacking one company because they conform to the market norm is ridiculous. Last edited by nvspike on Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:38 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Mou Kaoru
 Posts: 298 Location: Simple minds are easily amused. |
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kiddieized?
Don't waste your time. |
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Asaqe
Posts: 43 Location: The "anti-4kids" resistance |
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This the problem with you guys you are so skeptical instead you just sit here and do nothing we got to stand up to them what happens if 4kids starts dubbing the good anime that we all love and butcher it what are you gonna do? If I were you I would gather up people and start a campaign to stop this bad anime dubbing
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Samurai CDZ
 Posts: 776 Location: Manhattan, KS |
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Yeah, he does that a lot. 
I'll buy the dvds then. |
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Nagisa
Moderator
Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Asage...do you NOT listen to people? Read my post again. 4Kids goes after Japanese kiddy shows. Pokemon is a kiddy show in Japan. Yu-Gi-Oh! is a kiddy show in Japan. Ultimate Muscle is a kiddy show in Japan. Is it really that horrific that 4Kids would naturally market them as kiddy shows in America because that's exactly what they are? They are not butchering shows, they came almost exactly as 4Kids airs them.
Drop the conceit, pal. You like kiddy shows. Admit it. Please, just admit it and spare us the trouble of continuing this thread. It's not that bad. Hell, I have friends in college who watch Yu-Gi-Oh!, and I don't think any less of them for it (and yes, they readily acknowledge that it's a kiddy show). Last edited by Nagisa on Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Asaqe
Posts: 43 Location: The "anti-4kids" resistance |
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Now I am not being some blantant anime fan here I am talking about how we are being a disorganized bunch who does nothing at all to change the condition 4kids wont change they will refuse to make uncut anime dvds and continue making butchered anime until we start complaining at them non stop look at FUNI after constant rants at them they finally made uncut cds. I also got proof here http://www.dbzoa.net/opinions/4Kids.html |
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Asaqe
Posts: 43 Location: The "anti-4kids" resistance |
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I am worried about how they will continue to rise and grow and eventually lincense all good anime I know they are for kids but I am particularily more worried about other anime that will soon become lincesed and since the fansub system FORBIDS licensed anime I am afraid we have to kepp pressuring them till they quit doing such poor jobs on anime or at least the fansub system improves by allowing 4kids anime to be subbed so we can see the real thing
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Nagisa
Moderator
Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Firstly, go back and re-learn grammar. There's this thing called a run-on sentence...it's a bad thing. Stop doing it.
Secondly, perhaps anime fans aren't forming some Sect-like organization of anti-corporate radicals because 4Kids aren't doing a bad job! Their business is selling kiddy anime to kiddy audiences, and they're doing pretty well. And I stress, kiddy anime. They aren't going to pursue anything above a Japanese 8-year old demographic, which means that most anime that American fans form fanatical followings around are safe from their "oh so evil" tentacles, anyway. Give it up already. |
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EMY23-23
 Posts: 150 Location: New York |
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[Edit: Nagisa beats me again  ...]
Just give it up...you sound more and more ridiculous as you continue on ranting. Haven't you read every other post on this thread besides yours?? |
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Yumemi
 Posts: 15 Location: New York |
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Ahahaha So true. *nods in agreement* |
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Proman
 Posts: 947 Location: USA |
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I have to say that I somewhat agree with you Asaqe. Some of the 4kids' dubs are truly bad (but than again I don't listen to dubs
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To others: calm down. There's nothing wrong with a little critisizm .
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