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Andrez



Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Posts: 67
Location: Tokyo
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:45 pm Reply with quote
First up:

TONY K., please do not delete or lock this thread, citing the following reason:

"Teh Rules wrote:

3) Discussions should carry some measure of intelligence to them. Consider if what you are writing is relevant or important to others. If it does not contribute to the discussion, do not post it. Please post detailed answers to questions, lists and one-liners do not contribute"

The fact is that I feel I have very good reason for withdrawing from this forum after only 2 days of activity here, and I think it also happens to be relevant and important to some people here who feel the same way.

Threads are locked for trivial reasons; other entries are simply deleted without proper notification.

The above rules are cited each time, and I guess fair enough.

But by sticking to such rules, you're stifling the creativity and spontaneity of responses, and these are regulations more hardcore than in any other forum I've participated in.

I really wanted to get involved in an anime forum, and I'm a huge fan of the ANN site. I felt like I had something to contribute to like-minded people, and it would be great to chat (without feeling like I'd be deleted or locked down).

So, I'm out of here.

Bye.


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Animefreak6969



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 587
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:56 pm Reply with quote
BYE BYE!!!, hope you have a good time on a fairly easyquest to find another Anime forum with less restrictions (AnimeNfo or G4tv.com/animeunleashed or even AdultSwim) but i was kinda banned from G4 so i cant join you there, that or teh rules will let up, doubt that'll happen
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emory



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Posts: 615
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:58 pm Reply with quote
Okay. No one cares that you're leaving.
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Takai





PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:04 pm Reply with quote
Adult Swim has a close community of anime dorks there.
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jgreen



Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 1325
Location: St. Louis, MO
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:14 pm Reply with quote
Andrez, I can't blame you. I've gotta say, I find the way the mods work around here to be almost brutally heavy-handed at times for no discernible reason. I mean, come on! It's an anime messageboard, fer crissakes!

I understand locking threads from spammers, or from guys like CanSomebodySayMedic and his "I can't learn my lesson so I'm going to start the same .hack thread 50 times" style posts. But Andrez seems like a guy who is eager to fit in around here and join the discussion, and yet he's getting posts deleted and threads locked and...it's just unnecessary.

It seems like there's a very anti-new people attitude around here, and that anyone with less than 10 posts gets ruled with an iron fist while people who have been around longer get away with posting one-liners all the time. I would think as long as people aren't posting the truly baneful stuff (list posts, requests for downloads, real spam) that it's better letting people be. I mean, if a post doesn't have enough meat, people won't respond to it and it'll fall down the screen on its own accord. Chasing away new people isn't the best way to encourage a community.
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Animefreak6969



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:24 pm Reply with quote
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It seems like there's a very anti-new people attitude around here, and that anyone with less than 10 posts gets ruled with an iron fist while people who have been around longer get away with posting one-liners all the time. I would think as long as people aren't posting the truly baneful stuff (list posts, requests for downloads, real spam) that it's better letting people be.


Well, although i have 400+ now when i first started i was treated the same way as i am now. Anime smile
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b214



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:26 pm Reply with quote
I guess i'm not much of a noob here anymore, but not nearly as close as a lot of people. I read a lot more than I post.

I have had posts deleted of course, like most people. I don't complain cause it's just a few posts and who cares. I haven't even read teh rules cause they are the same as every other decent and orderly forum on the web and if you can't really follow them that well, then you shouldn't be here. Stop complaining and just leave if you can't handle it.

I and anyone else probably shouldn't even be posting in here because it's probably gonna get locked and mods don't like when people post in threads that shouldn't exist.
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:37 pm Reply with quote
When I first came to this forum earlier in the year, I had a few posts deleted and edited and had a small squabble with one of the mods. It was kind of a wake up call how the expectations and professionality of this forum caught me a little off guard at first, since I was only used to more laid back and free spirited anime forums (as anime forums typically are). But I got used to it and realized that doesn't mean I was conforming to some arbitrary code of conduct that reeks of some sort of internet elitism. It's not that at all.

But ANN is a little different from other anime forums. It is a professional organization that handles a huge amount of high quality information for all people interested in anime and manga. It's not a fan site, it's not a convention forum, it's not a anime chat blog and it is most definitely not an online anime club. Plus the forum is merely an additional feature to the entire site that acts as an outlet where people can make rational and intelligent conversation about the anime information they've learned and aquired.

So in that sense I can see why immature comments are highly discouraged even if they aren't overtly offensive or inappropriate. Plus ANN only has a very small handful of mods and admins to keep an eye on the thousands of members currently active. I can understand why the policy is (and I've experienced this method several times on this site) correct infractions and move on - meaning no attempt to console or provide explanation to the guilty parties. Apparently it works and I applaud the mods for both their diligence and efficiency in keeping ANN a worthwile place to contribute and interact.
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omar235



Joined: 02 Apr 2006
Posts: 1572
Location: Florida, Jacksonvile
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:48 pm Reply with quote
I love this forum and am glad they are so strict. After going on 4chan and other forums I have had my fill of retards for the day and like to know if someone disagrees with me I can expect an intelligent argument instead of the 10 consecutive posts of noting but Fu*k you. If you don't like this forum no one is stopping you to leave and having a thread made for this is stupid course that makes me stupid for even posting here, but I had to say something when someone wants to start a thread to talk ill of ANN's rules. Rolling Eyes
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Andrez



Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Posts: 67
Location: Tokyo
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:58 pm Reply with quote
Back again for 2 words:

FREE SPEECH.

Now, I'm seriously outta here!!

Wink
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omar235



Joined: 02 Apr 2006
Posts: 1572
Location: Florida, Jacksonvile
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:03 pm Reply with quote
Andrez wrote:
Back again for 2 words:

FREE SPEECH.

Now, I'm seriously outta here!!

Wink


Sounds more like bitching to me. Wink
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ivorymoose



Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 240
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:07 pm Reply with quote
Hi Andrez,

I read your post in a thread that was closed. I liked what you wrote in "top 3 best anime girls on the planet" You were very objective and professional in your views. Tony K quoted another user for an inappropriate posting. He did not mention you. Incidentally, it seems that user is also the starter of that thread. I think his/her post was inappropriate because of his/her language. I was surprised that thread was locked.

You should not take things so hard. I've learnt how not to take things personally in such forums. You should try and stay. You can always read and not post. Take a break for a few weeks/months and come back again. This forum is very big and I suppose they are very careful. They have a very professional music section. I'm impressed.
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Animefreak6969



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Well you shouldnt take ANYTHING hard on a forum, even if it is just F*CK YOU!!!, who cares its fun and should just be ignored. LOVE ALL AROUND!!!
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Azathrael



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Posts: 745
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:22 pm Reply with quote
I think the mods have been too lenient lately. There were a lot less one-liner posts just 4-5 months ago. And a lot less useless posts in general (not including the recent advertisement threads).

/Shrug, to each his own.
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LydiaDianne



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 5634
Location: Southern California
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:27 pm Reply with quote
Andrez,

I'm sorry that you feel this way about ANN. I do hope that you will give this forum another chance.

Past wrote:
When I first came to this forum earlier in the year, I had a few posts deleted and edited and had a small squabble with one of the mods. It was kind of a wake up call how the expectations and professionality of this forum caught me a little off guard at first, since I was only used to more laid back and free spirited anime forums (as anime forums typically are). But I got used to it and realized that doesn't mean I was conforming to some arbitrary code of conduct that reeks of some sort of internet elitism. It's not that at all.

But ANN is a little different from other anime forums. It is a professional organization that handles a huge amount of high quality information for all people interested in anime and manga. It's not a fan site, it's not a convention forum, it's not a anime chat blog and it is most definitely not an online anime club. Plus the forum is merely an additional feature to the entire site that acts as an outlet where people can make rational and intelligent conversation about the anime information they've learned and aquired.

So in that sense I can see why immature comments are highly discouraged even if they aren't overtly offensive or inappropriate. Plus ANN only has a very small handful of mods and admins to keep an eye on the thousands of members currently active. I can understand why the policy is (and I've experienced this method several times on this site) correct infractions and move on - meaning no attempt to console or provide explanation to the guilty parties. Apparently it works and I applaud the mods for both their diligence and efficiency in keeping ANN a worthwile place to contribute and interact.


I've only been on this forum since the end of January myself and yes, I've been schooled and scolded by the mods and admin. But, I corrected my behavior and that was the end of that. Yes, some people on here do one-liners, and yes, they know better than to do that. Sometimes a one-liner is appropriate for the thread in question, most of the time it is not and that person is corrected as well.

There are THOUSANDS of us and only a few of them. Not only are they having to deal with us but they are having to keep a constant watch out for the spambots, perverts, and spammers in general. This is the first forum that I've ever been on and I feel quite safe here precisely because the mods and admin are so tough on spammers etc and us as well.



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jgreen Quote:
It seems like there's a very anti-new people attitude around here, and that anyone with less than 10 posts gets ruled with an iron fist while people who have been around longer get away with posting one-liners all the time. I would think as long as people aren't posting the truly baneful stuff (list posts, requests for downloads, real spam) that it's better letting people be.

Animefreak6969 wrote:

Well, although i have 400+ now when i first started i was treated the same way as i am now.


ANN is not anti-new people. Like Past said, ANN is a professional organization and as such certain standards of behavior are expected. The mods, at first, will ask politely that you correct your behavior and if you respond poorly to their request, they, like anybody else, will treat you the way you are behaving.


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I'm Andrez Bergen, the Tokyo Correspondent for Anime Ansider magazine, as well as for Impact mag over in the UK, plus I scribe for new mag Geek Monthly


Besides, don't these organizations expect some degree of professionalism as well?

Andrez, like I said at the beginning I hope that you will give ANN another chance and that you understand where ANN is coming from.

Good luck and enjoy.
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