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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:21 pm
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to be honest, i'm not surprised this happened. barely anyone had the channel, and it was probably costing them a ton of money.
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Xanas
Joined: 27 Aug 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:48 pm
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Yeah I never could get this or the Funimation channel, even as VOD type stuff so while I'm a little disappointed it doesn't affect me any. It's sad for those few who were using it though. Hopefully we'll see more online streaming to compensate with some decent pricing structures.
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Leebo
Joined: 14 Nov 2005
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Location: Somerville, MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:01 pm
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Neither of the linear channels were offered in my area. I wish they could have been.
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kokuryu
Joined: 07 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:05 pm
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I never saw the Liner service on anything ever offered in any area I was ever living in or even visited. BUT the VOD service was everywhere. So it makes sense.
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Josh7289
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:44 pm
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I've never seen the linear or VOD channel, ever, anywhere. Makes sense for the linear channel, at least, to die.
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Son Biggie
Joined: 21 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:53 pm
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I never got the linear service anyway but when I had Comcast I did had the VOD service I miss watching Anime Network and Anime selects and also WWE24/7 oh well least I can watch anime Network on my PC
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Dargonxtc
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:00 pm
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Sucks to be an anime company these days.
Edit:
fixed grammar error.
Last edited by Dargonxtc on Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:05 pm; edited 1 time in total
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DClark
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:18 pm
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Son Biggie wrote: | oh well least I can watch anime Network on my PC |
I haven't been able to get their online player to work for a few weeks now, and have almost given up on the player ever working again. If they remove any more older episodes without first fixing the player they'll probably lose quite a few viewers who haven't been able to catch up and don't want to try to guess what happened in the episodes they missed.
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Crawly
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:27 pm
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DClark wrote: | If they remove any more older episodes without first fixing the player they'll probably lose quite a few viewers who haven't been able to catch up and don't want to try to guess what happened in the episodes they missed. |
If those viewers weren't motivated to go buy the dvds after seeing the first few episodes, I doubt they care if they go. Likewise, if people want to see the episodes they're missing, they can go buy the discs. Free viewing isn't doing ADV much good if people aren't buying the discs or otherwise paying to view their properties.
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DClark
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:41 pm
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Crawly wrote: |
DClark wrote: | If they remove any more older episodes without first fixing the player they'll probably lose quite a few viewers who haven't been able to catch up and don't want to try to guess what happened in the episodes they missed. |
If those viewers weren't motivated to go buy the dvds after seeing the first few episodes, I doubt they care if they go. Likewise, if people want to see the episodes they're missing, they can go buy the discs. Free viewing isn't doing ADV much good if people aren't buying the discs or otherwise paying to view their properties. |
It's ad based, and for me it worked. I saw a banner for Blade of the Phantom Master which put it in my head and when I was at the store the following day I saw the disk and bought it. ADV paid Anime Network to advertise, and I bought an advertised product after seeing it on a banner ad.
ADV wins for selling a product, Anime Network wins for getting ad revenue, and I win for finding a movie that I enjoyed.
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Vortextk
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:14 pm
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Crawly wrote: |
DClark wrote: | If they remove any more older episodes without first fixing the player they'll probably lose quite a few viewers who haven't been able to catch up and don't want to try to guess what happened in the episodes they missed. |
If those viewers weren't motivated to go buy the dvds after seeing the first few episodes, I doubt they care if they go. |
Of course "older episodes" could mean something like episode 1-3, in which case the person can't even start the series. And I think even ADV would much rather have you watching it on their site than downloading it from torrent sites, regardless of if you ever buy it. Don't knock on people for using a legal and supported product.
That said, sucks that the channel went, but I'm not really feeling surprised. It was never in my area and probably never would have been so I didn't even have a way to support it. Just not enough interest to have it aired everywhere.
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bglassbrook
Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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Location: Gaithersburg, MD
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:17 pm
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Crawly wrote: |
DClark wrote: | If they remove any more older episodes without first fixing the player they'll probably lose quite a few viewers who haven't been able to catch up and don't want to try to guess what happened in the episodes they missed. |
If those viewers weren't motivated to go buy the dvds after seeing the first few episodes, I doubt they care if they go. Likewise, if people want to see the episodes they're missing, they can go buy the discs. Free viewing isn't doing ADV much good if people aren't buying the discs or otherwise paying to view their properties. |
I agree with DClark & Vortextk, ADV should be much happier with having folks using the ad supported site to preview shows because it will almost certainly turn into sales. Mine anyway. So all these episode (that lock up IE) and menu glitches that prevent us from watching the first set of episodes before they get plucked off are a really bad thing. At least I was able to catch the two episodes of Air Gear they skipped/mislabeled in the VOD run.
My personal peeve is how updating to the absolute latest version of Flash/Shockwave (and later allowing ALL the cookies) only served to fix the ads and made the menus even less stable.
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Crawly
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:56 pm
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bglassbrook wrote: | I agree with DClark & Vortextk, ADV should be much happier with having folks using the ad supported site to preview shows because it will almost certainly turn into sales. |
No they won't. If people are only using the service to watch episodes, hence the comment that if they don't get it fixed people can't see the episodes in the middle they've missed, then it isn't translating into sales (same problem they say they have with fansubs). For folks who are buying the dvds, the site not working is only a minor inconvenience and doesn't really make that much of a difference. Are the ads on the free episodes making any real difference in sales/revenue? I haven't a clue. Personally, I ignore them as I do all ads for anime (I use fansubs for deciding what to buy, since I don't like to buy blind and ads/reviews are useless).
I'm not knocking ADV for trying this out. I like the idea, though I get nothing from it since they only have one subtitled title up - and not a very interesting one at that. I'm also not knocking people who use the service to check out what's available. However, if people are only watching the shows and not putting any money into the titles themselves, then it's still a losing situation. A small bit of ad revenue (are they real ads and/or banner ads that have to be clicked on that they're getting paid for or are they just trailers for their own shows?) isn't going to change that in the long run.
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dmanjdb
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:42 pm
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The Problem with the Anime Network's 24/7 Linear channel is that it just show some anime and the channel will tell you... absolutely nothing.
When a new series starts on AS or Toonami they promote the premiere. On TAN is like "We have Rahphexon but its episode #13, sorry". The linear version was too disorganized. VOD look more their style and it something that fans like.
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davidlaw1985
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:48 pm
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I was surprised to learn about propeller TV also running an anime slot, in th UK we haev only just recently caught a dedicated channel (and all it plays currently is bleach) but it was very hard to find out about other channels running it, I had never given propeller a thought before as it was a nameless channel.
Of course I am now sad that they are stopping the service, dag.
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