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FilthyCasual
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:02 pm
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I remember being disappointed that Shizuku fell for Hajime back when I read the WN. It leads to some amusing moments, at least. My favorite part of the palette swaps was the VAs getting to act like (more) unhinged versions of themselves, !Kouki being a particular highlight. It's a shame that the animation budget only upgraded to two paperclips and three balls of pocket lint, because the ice dungeon fights had some real potential for cool imagery that we only see a bit of with mirror Hajime posing. On the lighter side, the black ops bunnies were great. Especially the chuuni jokes.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:21 pm
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Quote: | Kouki's eventual path, which is even more unfortunate. The official Hero of the world ends up developing an inferiority complex in the face of Hajime, compounded by his childhood friend/crush Shizuku falling for the ol' edge lord. It's an odd choice, since Kouki previously hadn't been part of the anti-Hajime ostracization outlet, and as mentioned the series has since moved far beyond that element, with Hajime himself repeatedly reinforcing that he doesn't care what other people think about him anymore. Rather, Kouki's fall, finding out how much he sucks, and having the girl he likes not want to kiss him mostly comes off like the author, punishing Kouki for the crime of…being a basic-ass popular guy. From a mechanical perspective, it effectively shows what one "failing" the test of a labyrinth can look like, but overall it's a misplaced, mean-spirited revenge fantasy in a series that had since seemed to move on from such things. |
Kouki has always been part of the anti-Hajime posse, even back in Japan. Kouki treats Kaori Shirasaki as if she belongs to him. Back in school he never understood what Kaori saw in Hajime. For Kouki, Kaori was always destined to be his and he doesn't handle it well at all. Mean-spirited revenge fantasy, really in our current society, that is full of toxic males, who don't know the meaning of 'No", men who believe that the women they like are theirs to do with as they please, and men who see women not as a human beings. And if you are being honest, a lot of times it is the popular kids who are the worst.
Kouki, like many people, is simply a person who doesn't learn from his mistakes and can't handle it when things do not go his way.
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Cryten
Joined: 19 Jan 2019
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:50 pm
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I havnt watched since season 2, did they really turn Kouki into another Daisuke?
I thought his thing was more naivette and the expectations of a class leader automatically treading the right path and being handed his way, as opposed to Daisukes obsession over women not being under his control.
That really is a turn around to the plot making the other popular guys out into terrible people for karma to punish.
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JustMonika
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:57 pm
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Every season just keeps getting better and better for me.
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:44 am
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I'm not sure if Kouki's character flaws have been really prevalent in the anime, but despite his character archetype of Hero, he's heavily flawed. His incredibly narrow sense of justice, his habit of trying to *impose* that sense of justice on others, his terrible judge of character, and always trying to frame everything in such a way that fits his worldview. He was always like this, but literally being "The Hero" exacerbates these issues, because how could the Hero ever be wrong?
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Thundercracker
Joined: 22 Feb 2023
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:02 am
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The part with everyone seeing Hajime's memories form the Abyss was better in the novel.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:32 pm
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I liked the stuff with Shizuku and Shea, especially in regards to their relationships with Hajime, but most of the season really did feel like it was just using the Dungeons as an excuse to go through all the character development for the cast that they had no organic way of working into the plot. And they're basically stuck like that for 80% of the season, even if there are still some fun moments here and there.
And then there's Kouki...honestly, he's a really frustrating character, maybe intentionally so. Maybe he's meant as a criticism of self-entitled heroes or whatever baggage the author has against popular guys, but him being so whiny, useless, and frankly non-important just doesn't make wasting so much time on him all that entertaining. And the show refuses to actually have Hajime grapple with a legitimate opposing viewpoint or be challenged in any meaningful way so Kouki has nowhere to go but just be brushed to the side.
And then there's that fight between Yue and Shea that can be summed up as Yue bringing up a legitimate issue and a possible counter to said issue and Shea going "nuh uh!" and fighting her becasue she just doesn't like that. It's in-character for Shea but ultimately just felt really pointless and immature.
I just want Kaori to get some more love.
But at least we got through all that for actual plot development...that will only go anywhere if we get season 4. Yet we've already come this far with Hajime and the gang!
FilthyCasual wrote: |
I remember being disappointed that Shizuku fell for Hajime back when I read the WN. It leads to some amusing moments, at least. My favorite part of the palette swaps was the VAs getting to act like (more) unhinged versions of themselves, !Kouki being a particular highlight. It's a shame that the animation budget only upgraded to two paperclips and three balls of pocket lint, because the ice dungeon fights had some real potential for cool imagery that we only see a bit of with mirror Hajime posing. On the lighter side, the black ops bunnies were great. Especially the chuuni jokes. |
Honestly if you ask me flirty Shizuku after she confesses and is honest with her feelings is best Shizuku. There's a reason she's seen as such a big threat.
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LuScr
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:05 am
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I didn't see Kouki's downfall in that light at all. The problem with "the official Hero of the world" is that he's just that--the "official Hero." Arifureta took advantage of an entire classroom of students being ported over to highlight a variety of reactions to their situation, and Kouki's was to get too deep into his role, at the expense of his task.
He's less interested in saving the world than he is in being the Hero who saves the world. He doesn't use that to write off/justify wrongdoing as happens with "heroes" in other series, but it does cause him to adopt an absolutist moral and worldview--that they should always act "as heroes should." He's wrapped up in his role to the point of self-absorption, and Hajime's own extreme utilitarian approach grates on that in practically every aspect.
Where the two of them conflict, Kouki is constitutionally incapable of admitting he is in the wrong, and that gradually builds to his meltdown at the end of the season.
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