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Shwiggie
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I ordered this several months back as a birthday present to myself, and I was pleasantly surprised when it actually arrived early. Very gratified to finally have a legit, physical copy of this movie as it's one of my all-time favorites and has been for many decades at this point.
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MarshalBanana
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I saw this on Play-Asia, and was considering importing it. However I think you have to have seen SDF Macross first.
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russ869
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This was never one of the censored scenes, even in the 2012 BD. Fans would have revolted. I'm surprised the review doesn't mention anything about the audio. The 5.1 remix is surprisingly good for an anime film of this age even though it does have some small music changes. Although unfortunately this disc only lets you listen to it with the newer cut of the film (with opening text crawl). |
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Lord Geo
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Yes & no. Having prior knowledge of the story of SDF Macross certainly helps in being more instantly familiar with the broad strokes of DYRL?'s story, but it's otherwise a completely separate & standalone movie. I've only seen a handful of episodes of SDF Macross long ago, and am more familiar with the franchise via Super Robot Wars, but I first watched DYRL? a few years back (via the Toho dub) & found it perfectly fine to watch as a relatively newbie. Even in the official Macross timeline DYRL? is literally considered "Hollywood's fictionalized interpretation of the events", hence why Macross II isn't canon anymore, since it apparently was considered have happened in DYRL?'s timeline, instead of SDF Macross'. |
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Errinundra
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Posts removed. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with a reviewer or another poster - just don't make it personal.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Like a lot of these anime movie retellings I love the film but I have a lot of mixed feelings about it. The best part is the love triangle,Minmay and Misa, and the gorgeous animation and Mari Iijima's lovely songs and they do a good of condensing the story into a more compact form. But I agree the supporting cast is better fleshed out in the show and Roy's spoiler[death has more emotional impact in the show.] Besides Brittai and Exodol,I also think the villains were more interesting in SDF, especially Kamjin The best choice was to drastically reduce Lynn Kaifun to one or two lines as he's still the worst character in SDF. The DYRL song climax still gets me emotional every time and in spite of some flaws it's still a beautiful and worthwhile film. I still wish we could get a better domestic release but at least we finally have this official subtitle version.
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An Unchosen One
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I don't know how you did, because the movie is absolutely supplemental to the show. I watched the latter first, so I can't say for sure how I'd react to the movie had I watched it first instead, but I feel certain that I wouldn't have enjoyed it much had I not seen the series beforehand. It really is too truncated and light on aspects like the supporting cast to work well as a standalone story. |
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RiderMurdock
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Thanks for fixing the typo.
I think having this available in 4K and on Blu Ray with English subtitles is a coup in itself! Appreciate the review Last edited by RiderMurdock on Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Angel'sArcanum
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It’s been nearly a decade since I watched SDF and DYRL so I can’t speak to the fine details from memory, but personally I thought DYRL was a big step up from SDF, but not without its issues. Sadly, one of those being that some of the context to how the Zentradi conflict settles is skimmed over a little iirc so you have to extrapolate or pick up on context clues that people who haven’t seen SDF would be lost on, so yeah I would recommend one watch SDF first if they are curious about DYRL to be on the safe side. Always thought Ishiguro’s direction in the show and the awful visuals lead to a lot of clunky sections that render some major drama pretty inert, and the weird structure of the show (having less of a love “triangle” and more just Hikaru having a different partner at different stages but still trying to frame it as a feasible, conflicting “triangle” was strange, lots of egregious stuff with Lin Kaifun, and a kind of rudderless epilogue that takes up literally a quarter of the series) and more time for the more irritating traits of some characters (again, Kaifun, along with Minmei and lots of time seeing Max being annoyingly perfect all the time, etc) had me pretty sour on the supposed mecha “classic”.
DYRL had that tighter, TRUE focus on the love triangle, keeping the story more lean to not have to deal with those more grating character moments/traits, the direction fittingly was more visually sumptuous and captured a mood well with the production quality to support it, gets a lot of the major beats across without dragging out, recall it just being like the platonic ideal of the story that I would hear about from its reputation and aesthetics and all. But again, been way too long since I’d seen it and I don’t have the most conventional Macross takes apparently, so take it with a grain of salt. |
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An Unchosen One
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For the characters, at least, it absolutely does not; as mentioned in the review, Roy and Claudia are victims of outright character assassination. And while the story may not be all that complex, there's enough not delved into and plenty of points that are rushed that it's hard to see how it was ever meant for anyone but fans of the show. |
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Zhou-BR
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I don't think the colors in the 1080p BD look that garish. They just don't look as natural as the ones in the 4K version because of the lack of HDR. I'd still take it over how the movie looks in the 2012 and 2016 BD releases, which I still own.
And the original, longer Tenshi no Enagu music video is a nice little extra I wasn't expecting. It's a great to way to watch the exclusive footage from Flashback 2012 without putting yourself through the entire OVA, which really didn't age well. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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An Unchosen One
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I'm not making assumptions, just explaining why I'm baffled that anyone would enjoy it as a standalone work. And the changes to Roy and Claudia are the only ones I can remember off the top of my head that are actually bad; the rest are just what I mean when I say it's supplemental to the show rather than an alternative, in that most are a result of truncating the show's plot (such as Kamjin's reduced role) or simply different for the sake of it (such as the Zentradi/Meltrandi split). |
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Lord Geo
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Sometimes, it's OK to just say "I don't get it, but good for you" & move on; we don't need to understand everything about everything or everyone. As I said, I did have some absolutely basic knowledge of a little bit of SDF Macross before watching DYRL?, so I didn't go into it completely blind, but overall I still enjoyed the movie, and that was even via the Toho dub, which isn't amazing but I felt was still kind of charming in its own right. If you can't understand why that's possible then just ignore what I said & move on to something else, instead of acting like it's some complicated mystery that someone can enjoy something in a way that's different from how you think it should be enjoyed. Someone I know said that their first Saint Seiya anime was Soul of Gold, which did confuse me a little bit since that show actually does assume you have familiarity with the franchise (especially its last few volumes), but since they still wound up enjoying it I just went "Not my pick for a starter show, but I'm glad you enjoyed it" & moved on. |
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