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Answerman - Why Are People More Upset By Nudity Than Violence?

Superfield wrote:

I think one reason is that seeing something violent doesn't get you riled up: when I see blood and guts flying every which way in Hellsing Ultimate, I don't have this animalistic desire to go spill some blood. But see something sexual, and suddenly you're all hot and bothered.

So you're admitting to having no control over your own sexual lust but you can keep your blood lust in check??? Might want to have that checked out.

yurihellsing wrote:

Superfield wrote: I think one reason is that seeing something violent doesn't get you riled up: when I see blood and guts flying every which way in Hellsing Ultimate, I don't have this animalistic desire to go spill some blood. But see something sexual, and suddenly you're all hot and bothered. So you're admitting to having no control over your own sexual lust but you can keep your blood lust in check??? Might want to have that checked out.

Never said that - please don't put words in my mouth. I merely stated that sexual content creates a sexual desire, but violent content (unless you're dealing with some kind of mental disorder) doesn't create a violent desire. Control over that desire is irrelevant to this particular discussion.

The problem is as we have a higher tolerance and acceptance of violence we have learnt how to keep that in check. Every peaceful protest is always one punch away from a riot and every altercation in a bar is single slap away from a full on brawl.

yurihellsing wrote:

The problem is as we have a higher tolerance and acceptance of violence we have learnt how to keep that in check. Every peaceful protest is always one punch away from a riot and every altercation in a bar is single slap away from a full on brawl.

You might have a point there, but again, irrelevant to what I was getting at. I'm talking about the effect certain types of content has on you in neutral situations. In protests or bar altercations, emotions are high and tension can be cut with a knife, sure. I'm just saying that you're not likely to want to go punch someone because you watched an episode of Dragon Ball, but you might want some alone time after seeing some T&A. The effect that violent content has on you is incomparable to the effect that sexual content has, and that might be a contributor to the difference we're seeing in attitudes towards it.

I disagree with that slut shaming comment, I also think it’s not helpful to the discussion. I think there is something to the idea that sexual content can inspire lustful feelings more frequently than violent content inspires the desire to hurt people. I consider myself to be a psychologically healthy woman, I am in a committed and satisfying relationship, and I’ll admit to finding myself hot and bothered after watching something sexy. I have never wanted to pick up a sword and kill someone after an intense fight scene. Jump up and yell “hell yeah!” sure, but not kill people.

Again this is all down to the individual being unable to control their sexual lust. Trust me by nature we're all aiming for two things that being survival the Violent element and Reproduction the Sexual. Isn't the whole goal of horror, gore, and violence in media just to give us what we've been missing now that we're safer and better provided for?

yurihellsing wrote:

Again this is all down to the individual being unable to control their sexual lust. Trust me by nature we're all aiming for two things that being survival the Violent element and Reproduction the Sexual. Isn't the whole goal of horror, gore, and violence in media just to give us what we've been missing now that we're safer and better provided for?

Respectfully, I feel perfectly capable of controlling my sexual lust. There is a difference between having a feeling and acting on it.

But you may have a point regarding the genetic imperative. I learned in psychology class that the three strongest drives in the most primitive part of our brain are #1 survival, #2 not starving, and #3 reproducing. So as long as we're not in imminent danger, and we're not starving to death, there is a part of our brain sending out a message that we need to find a mate and reproduce. That could be part of the reason why sexual content is more likely to cause an autonomous response. Just like seeing delicious food makes you hungry, seeing stuff about sex can make your horny. It's not a sign of moral depravity or weakness, it's just human.

Isn't there plenty of examples of social creatures engaging in acts of violence and aggression to assert dominance in the pack/group that others will partake in or respond to?

Isn't there plenty of examples of social creatures engaging in acts of violence and aggression to assert dominance in the pack/group that others will partake in or respond to?

EricJ2 wrote:

Every high-school boy in the world, who never even looked at them in junior high, grows up terrified of girls until he takes the step of asking one out--But in Japanese schools, boy and girl students are encouraged not to mingle in class or during club time, so entire generations of Tokyo teen freshman boys grow up either more interested in their hobbies and extracurricular sports than girls, or watching them from nervous afar (hence the fetishization of things you can spot about girls from a distance, like glasses, socks, twin-tails or uniforms)...And grow into misogynistic adult males who still frustratedly resent, complain, and dismiss the objects of fears they've never completely overcome.

It sounds like Japan is its own reason for the low birth rate. How are they supposed to talk to each other as adults when they're not supposed to talk as teenagers?

I would also note that sexophobia is Christianity's reaction to Baal worships practices (lots of orgies and human sacrifice, at least sometimes at the same time). Judaism, by contrast, chose to focus on the polygamous aspect of the rituals, basically linking polygamy with polytheism. That's why, regardless of piety level (or even correlating with it, as secularism tends to correlate with assimilation), Jews are very pro sex... as long as it's in the marital bed.

One of the most prevalent examples of this is Toonami. They've played ultra-violent anime such as Black Lagoon, Deadman Wonderland, and Hellsing Ultimate completely uncensored for violence, but blurring nudity and bleeping F-bombs.

I disagree with that slut shaming comment, I also think it’s not helpful to the discussion. I think there is something to the idea that sexual content can inspire lustful feelings more frequently than violent content inspires the desire to hurt people. I consider myself to be a psychologically healthy woman, I am in a committed and satisfying relationship, and I’ll admit to finding myself hot and bothered after watching something sexy. I have never wanted to pick up a sword and kill someone after an intense fight scene. Jump up and yell “hell yeah!” sure, but not kill people.

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