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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:20 am Reply with quote
What? A Go Nagai anime actually got higher than a C by a reviewer?! That's a first. Rolling Eyes
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GATSU wrote:
What? A Go Nagai anime actually got higher than a C by a reviewer?! That's a first. Rolling Eyes


Oh GATSU your so adorable Rolling Eyes . Honestly I'd never heard this title up until the whole BV ordeal, and after reading the review I am probably just going to rent this title and see how it is. The animation certainly has a look that I find really appealing so hopefully this title will be horror title I've been looking forward to finding seeing as how the only thing I've seen that might be horror is 100 stories aka Requiem from the Darkness. And really that's more of a dark tale that shows the travels of a man into the darkness.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:42 pm Reply with quote
Wow, more typos in the subtitles? I can't believe some people are actually willing to put up with these releases on any level.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:56 pm Reply with quote
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Wow, more typos in the subtitles? I can't believe some people are actually willing to put up with these releases on any level.


I consider the dvd well worth the $25 I paid for it.
My 16 yr old loves Requiem From the Darkness(& I managed to land the limited box Geneon sold out of so quickly), but I preferred this title myself. I noticed some subtitle issues, (subtitles when there seemed to be no dialogue), but then I popped over to the other audio & located the seemigly missing dialogue, so I just assumed it was too soft for my to notice at the volume I had my player at.

I say they really should have opted for the English dialogue because there is the same potential for those who loved Hellsing to love this one.

Deltakiral, you might try the Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales from Geneon if you liked Requiem. The first volume probably worked in a bit more blood than I remember from Requiem, but was a good horror title. The dub is Ocean so it's a tad hard not to think of InuYasha (Kirby Morrow & Willow Johnson), but we get Hikaru Midorikawa & Houko Kuwashima on the Japanese side (Yeah, another InuYasha lead).

My only problem with Vol 1 of Enma is it left me very much wanting to see Vol 2 &, as backed up as I am on my viewing(probably 50 dvds right now), I will watch Vol 2 within a day or so of it arriving.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:47 pm Reply with quote
It sounds interesting but its too damn expensive right now. I'll either rent it at some point or get it if I can find it really cheap.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:29 pm Reply with quote
WOAH is this really a remake of that old kiddy show???!

Are these high priced sub-only dvds really giving Bandai a profit? It seems like no one is really buying these dvds due to high costs.
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WOAH is this really a remake of that old kiddy show???!

Are these high priced sub-only dvds really giving Bandai a profit? It seems like no one is really buying these dvds due to high costs.


I actually kind of wanted to see this one- but the price is making me think twice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:39 pm Reply with quote
Then rent it until a sale comes around for you to buy it. Smile

I loved both volumes. Vol 2 has a wtf ending to it. I wish that they'd make more of this one. Crying or Very sad
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HitokiriShadow wrote:
It sounds interesting but its too damn expensive right now. I'll either rent it at some point or get it if I can find it really cheap.


I think you've really hit this on the head so to speak HitokiriShadow. Bandai Visual has a lot of titles that I am really interested in, heck after reading the review for Demon Prince Enma (a title I was sitting on the fence ) I am certainly willing to give it a shot. But it won't be via purchase it's going to have to be a rental for me.

CCSYueh wrote:
Deltakiral, you might try the Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales from Geneon if you liked Requiem. The first volume probably worked in a bit more blood than I remember from Requiem,


Yeah I am also renting Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales as well, after doing some extra reading up on that title it certainly seems like a horror anime that might be up there with Requiem from the Darkness.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:52 am Reply with quote
Deltakiral wrote:
HitokiriShadow wrote:
It sounds interesting but its too damn expensive right now. I'll either rent it at some point or get it if I can find it really cheap.


I think you've really hit this on the head so to speak HitokiriShadow. Bandai Visual has a lot of titles that I am really interested in, heck after reading the review for Demon Prince Enma (a title I was sitting on the fence ) I am certainly willing to give it a shot. But it won't be via purchase it's going to have to be a rental for me.


The ironic thing about this? Alright, Hellsing was mentioned by CCSYueh. Now then, take a look at the recent OVA adaption, Hellsing Ultimate. Twenty-five dollars for the regular edition, one forty-something to fifty minute episode in each volume. Check out Demon Prince Enma. Forty dollars for each volume at forty-five or so minute episodes. Yeah, the latter lacks a sub, but beyond that Demon Prince Enma actually has enough content to justify the pricing if you are asking for comparisons. People on this thread complaining about the pricing aren't quite right here.

Of course, I'm going to ask you guys to be honest and say that you aren't going to buy it because you just plain don't like BV USA. Razz

For myself, I'll give it a rental as I have liked the two Go Nagai series that I've seen (Devil Lady and Re: Cutie Honey), but I'm certainly not in love with the guy.

CCSYueh wrote:
Deltakiral, you might try the Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales from Geneon if you liked Requiem. The first volume probably worked in a bit more blood than I remember from Requiem,


Yeah I am also renting Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales as well, after doing some extra reading up on that title it certainly seems like a horror anime that might be up there with Requiem from the Darkness.[/quote]

The first disc that Geneon released (which is actually second in order of the broadcast, which screws up the previews, but oh well) of Ayakashi ~ Samurai Horror Tales is rather ho-hum with absolutely nothing horrifying in it. The second disc that they're going to release is a step up in quality, as it does hold some creepy moments in it, though it's not something that'll blow you away. Now the last disc, "Goblin Cat," is one of the best things seen in Japan last year in anime. I'd say that, for those three episodes alone, for television series it's right up there with the last six episodes of Mushishi and the whole of Honey and Clover II. It has incredibly unique art and character designs (closet thing that comes to it is Gankutsuou), the best animation out of all three stories, has a massive amount of suspense, and a really touching ending. It went over so well with its audience, in fact, that it has produced a spin-off set to air this summer in the name of Mononoke. I highly, highly recommend both. (I really like Requiem from the Darkness, as well.)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:15 am Reply with quote
HellKorn wrote:
Deltakiral wrote:
HitokiriShadow wrote:
It sounds interesting but its too damn expensive right now. I'll either rent it at some point or get it if I can find it really cheap.


I think you've really hit this on the head so to speak HitokiriShadow. Bandai Visual has a lot of titles that I am really interested in, heck after reading the review for Demon Prince Enma (a title I was sitting on the fence ) I am certainly willing to give it a shot. But it won't be via purchase it's going to have to be a rental for me.


The ironic thing about this? Alright, Hellsing was mentioned by CCSYueh. Now then, take a look at the recent OVA adaption, Hellsing Ultimate. Twenty-five dollars for the regular edition, one forty-something to fifty minute episode in each volume. Check out Demon Prince Enma. Forty dollars for each volume at forty-five or so minute episodes. Yeah, the latter lacks a sub, but beyond that Demon Prince Enma actually has enough content to justify the pricing if you are asking for comparisons. People on this thread complaining about the pricing aren't quite right here.

Of course, I'm going to ask you guys to be honest and say that you are going to buy it because you just plain don't like BV USA. Razz



Well, you can also take into account that Hellsing is an extremely proven property in the U.S. with an obvious kickass English dub fans adored immensely compared to the title that's rather unknown which not many people are will to take a risk to own. But hey, renting is our friend! Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:25 am Reply with quote
Caught a typo in my last post.

darkchibi07 wrote:
Well, you can also take into account that Hellsing is an extremely proven property in the U.S. with an obvious kickass English dub fans adored immensely compared to the title that's rather unknown which not many people are will to take a risk to own. But hey, renting is our friend! Surprised


Indeed. I'm sayin' that it isn't a fair comparison to other BV USA releases as you are getting more content for an OVA with Demon Prince Enma that you do with other new R1 releases, sans English dub. Using that as a reason to not buy but rather rent it seems rather silly. But having not enough interest to buy it (like myself), not wanting to take a chance on a blind buy, or merely disliking BV USA as a whole? Perfectly reasonable.
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I pre-order(don't download), so I gamble a lot based on what I've seen in the various English-language anime zines or what ANN has on the title. I bought Gantz at a pr-order price of about $12 for each of the first volume's 2 ep dvd season & considering hte statisfaction I got out of the series, each of those $12 dvds were far more expensive than paying $25 for 1 Enma dvd since my enjoyment is far higher with Enma.

I learned long ago most of the stuff I buy at Walmart for a buck less than someplace else also seems to wear out faster. Some things are worth paying more for.

I do think Bandai sold the series short not giving it a dub, but it's also outside the norm in many ways. It couldn't fit into the average 30 minute anime slot, so would some station want to fill an hour for a 4-ep series? Maybe if there were 13 eps or they were 25 minutes each. Would the average Cartoon Network-watching fan used to Naruto & Mar be willing to sit thru it for the (very excellent) payoff? I couldn't get my teen's friends to watch Hellsing until it played on TV & all their friends were talking about it.

I found the styling of Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales to be similar to Requiem--the old tales/other world eerie feel. Is it scary? I don't find Hellsing scary. Violent. Cool. Excellent, but not scary. And that bloodbath on the first dvd of Ayakashi, while lacking the style of Hellsing, was very, very violent & thus very much horrifying.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:23 pm Reply with quote
CCSYueh wrote:
Some things are worth paying more for.


Which is something that I don't think a lot of fans realize when it comes to understanding why folks like us would be willing to shell out the money for BV USA's releases. A few more dollars than usual, so as long as you are dirt poor or in serious debt, is not going to kill you. It also helps that you aren't buying practically every anime DVD under the sun.

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I do think Bandai sold the series short not giving it a dub, but it's also outside the norm in many ways.


Just a slight nit-pick: it would be preferrable to call them Bandai Visual, as "Bandai" by itself lends some confusion to those that mix up the two and think that Bandai Entertainment has gone crazy from selling an entire twenty-six episode series for fifty dollars in brick form to selling two episodes of an OVA at forty bucks.

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I found the styling of Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales to be similar to Requiem--the old tales/other world eerie feel. Is it scary? I don't find Hellsing scary. Violent. Cool. Excellent, but not scary. And that bloodbath on the first dvd of Ayakashi, while lacking the style of Hellsing, was very, very violent & thus very much horrifying.


I agree on the Requiem comparison, though I don't find the first DVD to be that horrifying; on both accounts of watching it months ago and then renting it recently to hear the English dub. I suppose it's in part because I've become sort of densitized to a lot of violence in fiction, but it didn't really get any reaction out of me. And for the scary part... well, to be "scared" in the traditional sense with anime is rare, but you can at least see attempts at it trying to be a horror show. The first disc doesn't have any of those elements, while the second and third ones do.
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HellKorn wrote:
CCSYueh wrote:
Some things are worth paying more for.


Which is something that I don't think a lot of fans realize when it comes to understanding why folks like us would be willing to shell out the money for BV USA's releases. A few more dollars than usual, so as long as you are dirt poor or in serious debt, is not going to kill you. It also helps that you aren't buying practically every anime DVD under the sun.


I agree that there are titles I am going to go out of my way to support because they are worth the money. Could I purchase a title like Demon Prince Enma ya I could, but I have a rental service for titles that I am on the fence about or things I just don't want to a pay premium for such as this title. And yes I do consider this a premium product for this when it cost me more to buy this with one audio track then Le Chevalier D'eon which has both and plenty of extras included.
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