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NEWS: "Nobel Prize" For Foreign Manga


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Kuroki



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:31 am Reply with quote
Hopefully this will be something that will not only boost other asain manga popularity, but OEL manga as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:37 am Reply with quote
BRILL. Popular culture is such a good diplomacy tool-- just look at how Japan and South Korea's relations have improved with SK dramas (though it's soured a bit since). And anime and manga is freakish popular in China...

The father of a friend of mine was asked to donate to some sort of anti-Japanese organization, but he refused because his daughter loved Japanese anime so much... I think this shows the power of our "cartoons"!

Though, Nobel-prize-esque? Not too sure that the connection is that strong Anime hyper But I guess it IS promoting peace.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:44 am Reply with quote
minakichan wrote:
Though, Nobel-prize-esque? Not too sure that the connection is that strong Anime hyper But I guess it IS promoting peace.


Well, the Nbel Prize is given out for outstanding controbutions to society in several fields, not just peace. You can get a Nobel Prize for literature, medicine, etc...

I think Aso's idea is to recognize "Outstanding Contribution to Manga."

The one thing I wasn't certain of, while writing the article, was whether Aso was talking about Japanese style manga, or comics in general. Unfortunately, he would have used the word "Manga" in either case. But at one point he did refer to manga as a Japanese creation (I think I neglected to include that in the article Anime smallmouthWink, leading me to beleive that he was talking about Japanese style manga... either that or he's seriously misled about the origin of comics. :-p

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:12 pm Reply with quote
I'd like to see one of the great up-and-coming mangaka from countries like the UK, Australia, Canada, or Germany etc. winning an award like this. A western mangaka receiving an award from Japan might make those who only like manga that comes from Japan think a little more highly of non-jp manga.

It also might lead to these artists getting their titles licensed in Japan. Heck, maybe it will change the outlook of non-jp manga so much that Viz will start publishing works from these mangaka.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:36 pm Reply with quote
Ztarr wrote:
Heck, maybe it will change the outlook of non-jp manga so much that Viz will start publishing works from these mangaka.


I don't think Viz will ever put out any comics (man hua, manhwa, etc) of non-Japanese origin. They're owned by three Japanese publishing companies and all of their titles come from that pool. Why bother with anything else when you've got thousands of titles at your disposal already?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:37 pm Reply with quote
Interesting! Using Japanese culture's popularity around the world to increase good relations. I'm extremely interested in how this plays out.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:40 pm Reply with quote
UltimaShadowfax wrote:
Interesting! Using Japanese culture's popularity around the world to increase good relations. I'm extremely interested in how this plays out.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:58 pm Reply with quote
I thought most japanese found non-japanese art as sub-par. In the eyes of the japanese wouldn't the winner of this award to "increase their affinity with Japan", just be viewed as the best sub-par artist. The first loser.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:13 pm Reply with quote
Ztarr wrote:
I'd like to see one of the great up-and-coming mangaka from countries like the UK, Australia, Canada, or Germany etc. winning an award like this. A western mangaka receiving an award from Japan might make those who only like manga that comes from Japan think a little more highly of non-jp manga.


Why a "Western" country? Why not Africa, South America, other parts of Asia (like India or Middle East)?

Also, in the "Japan is xenophobia" debate that people on here LOVE to bring up, what rarely gets mentioned is the double standard between treatment of Westerners and non-Western foreigners in Japan. Quite frankly, Westerners get treated better in Japan. Not to mention Japan has this sick love affair with Western culture/Westerners in general. It's the oddest thing. Most people think Japan "hates" Western countries like the US, but I actually think the opposite is true.

Now towards many Asian countries and other non-Western countries (Africa, Latin America, Middle East, South Asia), it's a different story.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:03 pm Reply with quote
tempest wrote:

The one thing I wasn't certain of, while writing the article, was whether Aso was talking about Japanese style manga, or comics in general. Unfortunately, he would have used the word "Manga" in either case. But at one point he did refer to manga as a Japanese creation (I think I neglected to include that in the article Anime smallmouthWink, leading me to beleive that he was talking about Japanese style manga... either that or he's seriously misled about the origin of comics. :-p


Confused What's with the vague criteria of "manga?" And by that I mean if Aso did indeed mean foreign "manga" as comics sporting the general Japanese styles of manga art, narration, paneling, etc, then that might not be such a good idea. If this turns out to be deciding what a foreign "manga" is based on relativity to the average manga, then it could get a bit messy. What counts as foreign "manga" and what doesn't... Defining manga and comics influenced by manga by stylistic elements alone... Way too much grey.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:55 pm Reply with quote
Wait, let me get this straight. All these people completely copy the japanese art style, companies buy it to cash in on the manga craze, despite the fact that almost none of these people have any storytelling ability at all, and they're getting rewarded? Where's justice?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:33 pm Reply with quote
Successful_Troll wrote:
Wait, let me get this straight. All these people completely copy the japanese art style, companies buy it to cash in on the manga craze, despite the fact that almost none of these people have any storytelling ability at all, and they're getting rewarded? Where's justice?


I know! This almost makes me as mad as when Osamu Tezuka dared to copy Walt Disney's style and cash in on that!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:08 pm Reply with quote
I think it's something that would definetly inspire foreigners to look into the influences and history of manga so they can get some good ideas.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:22 pm Reply with quote
tempest wrote:
The one thing I wasn't certain of, while writing the article, was whether Aso was talking about Japanese style manga, or comics in general.

Since it's Aso, I would think the emphasis would be on the word "foreign," which can mean "unlike Japanese manga" in every aspect: art-style as well as narrative. But to receive the award, I suppose the title would have to be one that Japanese readers can read and relate to.
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SharinganEye wrote:
What counts as foreign "manga" and what doesn't... Defining manga and comics influenced by manga by stylistic elements alone... Way too much grey.

A mí no me gusta...

I wouldn't worry about it. In terms of artistic movements, artists/authors tend not to have much control over what other people call their work anyway. Sometimes the worst things that critics have to say get adopted (fauvism, for example), and then decades later, the term loses all negative impact and becomes a neutral descriptor.
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