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minakichan





PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:39 am Reply with quote
Oh cripes...

"Sudoku's Japanese! So let's advertise it with something Japanese!"

If they made it like "Hikaru no Sudoku" I'd be mildly interested. But a manga-instruction book on Sudoku? Sounds fairly lame, like talking head.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:45 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, so... why? What's the point??? Sudoku's not that hard anyways... -_-
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:56 pm Reply with quote
That just seems extremely weird. Shocked Sudoku's pretty self explanitory. Or are they going to tell some secreats.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:45 pm Reply with quote
Okay, the publisher is based in Tokyo, the work is in English, the author is American but lives in Tokyo, and the illustrator is Japanese.

Screw you, OEL. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:55 pm Reply with quote
^^;; I didn't think Sudoku was something that needed 40 pages to explain. I mean, most books do it with a one-page intro.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:03 pm Reply with quote
Despite what everyone assumes, Sudoku really isn't Japanese in origin...the name is just japanese! I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyways, sudoku is quite fun, in my opinion. I do the one in USAToday nearly everyday. It's become sort of a ritual for me I guess....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:31 pm Reply with quote
Patachu wrote:
Okay, the publisher is based in Tokyo, the work is in English, the author is American but lives in Tokyo, and the illustrator is Japanese.

Screw you, OEL. Laughing


Huh...? It's exactly the SAME publication story as Princess AI, basically.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:19 pm Reply with quote
Could someone explain the appeal of Sudoku? I've never felt the urge to get into it. I could see the appeal of solving two or three of the puzzles, but after that, it would get boring fast.

See, the problem for me is that, on the basic level, each Sudoku puzzle is the same as all the others. That's not true with, say, crossword puzzles. With crosswords, there can be interesting themes to the words, or clever layouts, or even cleverly written clues (English crosswords in particular). But each Sudoku is the same thing: put the same numbers in the same size box according to the same rules. Only the "free" numbers differ from puzzle to puzzle.

Hell, no one "writes" Sudoku puzzles, do they? Aren't they just spit out by a computer? I'm relatively certain I could write a program to "write" Sudokus in an afternoon.

So what's the lasting appeal? My suspicion is that there isn't any, and that Sudoku will go the way of the Rubik's Cube once the fad dies and everyone gets sick of solving the same puzzle over and over.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:13 am Reply with quote
LordRobin wrote:
So what's the lasting appeal?


My guess is that all you need to know going in is how to count to 9, as opposed to crossword puzzles which require general knowledge.

I don't care for it either, but let's face it, newspaper puzzles are always popular, no matter what they are. However, if they make a game show out of Sudoku, I'm throwing my remote into the tv.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:07 am Reply with quote
What the heck?
Soduko is pretty fun but come on. It not that hard. If a child pay attention enough, that kid can finish a Soduko puzzle if they like.
Oh well. *Do a Sudoko puzzle*

Oh, by the way, yeah, a poster above me a few post is correct. It not Japanese in origin. It some European guy that came up with it way back in the 1800's.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:48 am Reply with quote
Joe Mello wrote:
LordRobin wrote:
So what's the lasting appeal?


My guess is that all you need to know going in is how to count to 9, as opposed to crossword puzzles which require general knowledge.

I don't care for it either, but let's face it, newspaper puzzles are always popular, no matter what they are. However, if they make a game show out of Sudoku, I'm throwing my remote into the tv.
It will come. Afterall, didn't they make a game show out of crosswords? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:03 am Reply with quote
Vinitachi wrote:
What the heck?
Soduko is pretty fun but come on. It not that hard. If a child pay attention enough, that kid can finish a Soduko puzzle if they like.


I don't see how a form of Rat Bite Fever could be considered "easy." I mean, sure, 90-94% of the people who get it don't die, but there's still that 6-10%...

Unless you meant Sudoku, of course, which are growing in popularity because regardless of the difficulty of each one, they can easily be checked and each puzzle is written in the universal language of numbers. That said, the puzzles with multiple contingencies really raise my ire, and some of the puzzles that incorperate multiple sets of grids are painfully amusing.

Vinitachi wrote:
Oh, by the way, yeah, a poster above me a few post is correct. It not Japanese in origin. It some European guy that came up with it way back in the 1800's.


Uh, not exactly. They're based off Euler's Latin square, but the puzzles as we know them were first published in the late 1970's by Dell Magazines. (source)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:21 am Reply with quote
But isn't the origin of Sudoku to be found in "magic squares"? Which are far older than anything mentioned so far. A quick glance through google confirmed this: http://www.conceptispuzzles.com/articles/sudoku/

Which, of course, states it is Arabian in origin as opposed to Japanese or Chinese. But other stories of the square start with a turtle in China as shown here:
http://www.sudokudragon.com/sudokupuzzle.htm

So the basis goes much farther back. And to tie this back into anime, the story of the turtle and magic squares is mentioned in the Spiral anime. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:05 pm Reply with quote
linlinchan wrote:
Huh...? It's exactly the SAME publication story as Princess AI, basically.


Hmm, no, but close.

For Princess AI the co-creators are American, one of whom has visited Tokyo, the other lives in Tokyo. The author (the second co-creator) lives in Tokyo. The publisher is for all intents & purposes an American company (although legally parented in Tokyo) that imports Japanese books. And the artist is Japanese.

Similarities abound.

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