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BaronViolet
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:18 pm
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As someone who read the manga I will say that the Yae stuff was thr highlight and I really hope they cast Colleen Clinkenbeard as a certain character. But otherwise like most modern harems it starts to drag with the "will they won't they" bullshit I have seen too many times.
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lolechka
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:31 pm
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For an "Overall rating: C" review, this review sold me the anime
That's a way to write about a show!
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MFrontier
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:48 pm
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"There's no pretending this harem anime is particularly good" - But it is a pretty solid Harem show? I mean, if you're not into the genre or tropes, I get it and the production values aren't always amazing, but I'd still say it's fairly good in its own right.
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SkyLETV34
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:40 pm
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For how long and well he had talked about the series, seeing a C at the end was surprising and even hilarious haha.
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ktarf
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:12 pm
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Not sure how you can call this a review, it's more of an interminable, badly written rant against "fanservice", made up of only short sentences all structured in the exact same way, while projecting the writer's feelings on some indeterminate "many viewers" (who?).
The quality of these series reviews has been really terrible lately. I mean, how is this supposed to help anyone decide whether to watch this or not? Its label as a "harem anime" should already disperse any anti-fanservice militants, and surely no fan of the genre is interested in all this preaching about such a basic and obvious aspect of it.
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dm
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:23 pm
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I'd picked up the manga, and found it quite enjoyable for an obvious harem series. As the anime appears to have done with Andrew, the manga grew on me, so I was considering the anime.
Andrew's review, even with the C at the conclusion, had sold me on giving it a try.
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TiagoCosta
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:48 pm
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ktarf wrote: | Not sure how you can call this a review, it's more of an interminable, badly written rant against "fanservice", made up of only short senteces all structured in the exact same way, while projecting the writer's feelings on some indeterminate "many viewers" (who?).
The quality of these series review has been really terrible lately. I mean, how is this supposed to help anyone decide whether to watch this or not? Its label as a "harem anime" should already disperse any anti-fanservice militant, and surely no fan of the genre is interesed in all this preaching about such a basic and obvious aspect of it. |
The whole point of the reviewer negative view on the anime came down to ''fanservice is bad'', which is a major selling point for me.. certain people should skip certain kinds of anime if they clearly will dislike them to begin with, including reviewing them, there's plenty that do enjoy them and can review them.
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chrisb
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:22 pm
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There were moments where the fan service felt somewhat natural and well done so I was surprised the show relied on many annoying tropes. It’s like apparently they know how to do ecchi well but they choose to fall back on accidental chest grabs. The story really shines when it’s a family drama and some of the romance is very cute. I think it deserves a bit better than a C. I hope the fan service improves the further along we go.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:06 pm
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TiagoCosta wrote: |
The whole point of the reviewer negative view on the anime came down to ''fanservice is bad'', which is a major selling point for me.. certain people should skip certain kinds of anime if they clearly will dislike them to begin with, including reviewing them, there's plenty that do enjoy them and can review them. |
Truly good series are able to transcend their genres and be appealing to a general audience. Only assigning people who are fans of a certain genre to review shows in that genre would be fairly useless for people who aren't most likely going to watch them regardless.
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AJ (LordNikon)
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:34 pm
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Is "tepid" word of day or something? That said and ignoring confusing and interchangeability of word "temple' when referring to shinto shrine (as practicing shintoist, I'm split between amused and insulted
Show started out meh at first before going as grandkid would say, "batshit cray-cray" (whatever that means), it seems to break mould.
TiagoCosta wrote: |
ktarf wrote: | Not sure how you can call this a review, it's more of an interminable, badly written rant against "fanservice", made up of only short senteces all structured in the exact same way, while projecting the writer's feelings on some indeterminate "many viewers" (who?).
The quality of these series review has been really terrible lately. I mean, how is this supposed to help anyone decide whether to watch this or not? Its label as a "harem anime" should already disperse any anti-fanservice militant, and surely no fan of the genre is interesed in all this preaching about such a basic and obvious aspect of it. |
The whole point of the reviewer negative view on the anime came down to ''fanservice is bad'', which is a major selling point for me.. certain people should skip certain kinds of anime if they clearly will dislike them to begin with, including reviewing them, there's plenty that do enjoy them and can review them. |
Agreed. Was more surprised to read man complain about fanservice even more.
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andyos
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:53 pm
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Thanks for pointing out the sloppy use of "temple" - I've corrected that, with an acknowledgement of the mistake.
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be_low
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:46 pm
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Top Gun wrote: |
TiagoCosta wrote: |
The whole point of the reviewer negative view on the anime came down to ''fanservice is bad'', which is a major selling point for me.. certain people should skip certain kinds of anime if they clearly will dislike them to begin with, including reviewing them, there's plenty that do enjoy them and can review them. |
Truly good series are able to transcend their genres and be appealing to a general audience. Only assigning people who are fans of a certain genre to review shows in that genre would be fairly useless for people who aren't most likely going to watch them regardless. |
Ironic that your handle is "Top Gun" because when that movie first came out, it was extremely divisive. (Later events, such as the Cold War unexpectedly ending shortly after and Tom Cruise - who was also polarizing at the time - being more liked improved the movie's reputation over time, though the makers of Top Gun 2 absolutely addressed some of the criticisms in the sequel.) Having a huge fan of (the movie and TV show) M*A*S*H, which was 180 degrees different in genre and worldview, review "Top Gun" would not have been a good idea because such a person, while acknowledging the film's obvious merits, would spend much of the review criticizing the movie's politics, machismo and (from the perspective of the reviewer) lack of introspection. The problem is that the movie's target audience was in fact pro-military types who were unreserved in their opposition to communism and were fans of macho action and sports movies. And the thing is that there were tons of similar movies in that era that weren't as good as "Top Gun" but were "solid Bs" to that same target audience. So have the M*A*S*H fan review Iron Eagle or Delta Force? Horrible idea because that person would criticize everything about the film that its genre fans love and would have no redeeming qualities to point to.
So, niche entertainment is precisely that. It isn't designed to appeal to everyone. And when you are dealing with a niche that is polarizing in the first place, if you even put too much effort into pleasing people who flat out dislike a genre for non-negotiable artistic or political reasons, the result will please no one. A work that would have pleased both Top Gun and M*A*S*H* fans? The Tom Cruise "Mission Impossible" movies did so ... but that series began in 1996, more than 5 years after the Cold War was over. But while the Cold War was still going on? It would have taken very talented people and almost perfect execution to make something that both camps were going to enjoy. Far better to just make a product for one camp or the other.
The same here. A reviewer concerned about the Bechdel test, the male gaze, female objectification, female agency and nuanced depictions of female interiority isn't going positively recommend a show made for 12-16 year old boys who just want to look at pretty girls and laugh at silly jokes unless that show has Freiren, Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood or A Silent Voice type quality. After all, the likes of Magilumiere Co. Ltd., Super Cub, Bofuri and Gun Gale Online don't have to meet those elevated heights in order to get a "not for everyone but a pretty decent watch for fans of this type of show" from ANN do they? At the very least, almost half the reviews of shows like that aren't taken up with discussions of things that the reviewer is offended by.
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strawberry-kun
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:16 pm
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Well, I know to ignore any review of harem or fanservice series from the author of this review, so I guess it was good for something? Although I almost fell asleep reading it. This is a harem show. It’s not that deep.
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be_low
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:30 pm
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This really a harem show? Seems like of the 3 girls one isn't a romantic candidate due to age and another due to other priorities. Based on the review, like the oldest and the youngest don't have any serious romantic interest beyond basic teen curiosity amplified with "if he picks me to marry I have to be prepared" so it leaves only 1, with the other 2 being mainly there to add humor, plot and attractiveness.
Anyway, it seems modern slice of life harem romcom anime has mostly progressed from the "love rival" thing where the girls scheme against and compete with each other for the guy and are always jealous, even if isekai and fantasy anime hasn't. None of that was in A Couple of Cuckoos, Makeine, Bunny Girl Senpai or We Never Learn and it was also downplayed in The Quintessential Quintuplets. Maybe modern slice of life harem anime patterns itself more after Oregairu than Tenchi Muyo. If so kinda funny because Oregairu was a harem rom-com parody, and not even in the sense that Haganai and NouCome were.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:53 pm
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be_low wrote: | This really a harem show? Seems like of the 3 girls one isn't a romantic candidate due to age and another due to other priorities. Based on the review, like the oldest and the youngest don't have any serious romantic interest beyond basic teen curiosity amplified with "if he picks me to marry I have to be prepared" so it leaves only 1, with the other 2 being mainly there to add humor, plot and attractiveness.
Anyway, it seems modern slice of life harem romcom anime has mostly progressed from the "love rival" thing where the girls scheme against and compete with each other for the guy and are always jealous, even if isekai and fantasy anime hasn't. None of that was in A Couple of Cuckoos, Makeine, Bunny Girl Senpai or We Never Learn and it was also downplayed in The Quintessential Quintuplets. Maybe modern slice of life harem anime patterns itself more after Oregairu than Tenchi Muyo. If so kinda funny because Oregairu was a harem rom-com parody, and not even in the sense that Haganai and NouCome were. |
Asahi's arc looks like it's hitting next cour and they've been doubling down on how she has feelings for Uryu and is self-conscious about her sisters as "competition."
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