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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:27 am
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Are we in for a Code Geass renaissance?
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Vapewi
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:28 am
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Ryuji-Dono wrote: | Are we in for a Code Geass renaissance? |
I think it was known for a while now that there will be new Code Geass projects in this decade.
While they may not expect it to be as big a Gundam, Sunrise are probably trying to start to hone Code Geass as one of their most popular IPs.
It is most likely for the same reason that they also brought back Gundam Seed as well
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:34 am
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Vapewi wrote: |
Ryuji-Dono wrote: | Are we in for a Code Geass renaissance? |
I think it was known for a while now that there will be new Code Geass projects in this decade.
While they may not expect it to be as big a Gundam, Sunrise are probably trying to start to hone Code Geass as one of their most popular IPs.
It is most likely for the same reason that they also brought back Gundam Seed as well |
Right then.
I just find the timing with recent real-world events and the anime's themes quite... fascinating.
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joac101
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:39 pm
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Honestly not looking forward to future installments if they're another 12 episode equivalent media. Either pull a real movie/OVA thing like Akito or make it at least 24 episodes.
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hexashadow13
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:22 pm
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Despite the original Code Geass being my favorite anime, after Roze my hype for any new projects is pretty much nonexistant.
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Silver Kirin
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:32 pm
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Vapewi wrote: |
Ryuji-Dono wrote: | Are we in for a Code Geass renaissance? |
I think it was known for a while now that there will be new Code Geass projects in this decade.
While they may not expect it to be as big a Gundam, Sunrise are probably trying to start to hone Code Geass as one of their most popular IPs.
It is most likely for the same reason that they also brought back Gundam Seed as well |
I read some old articles and it seems Gundam SEED and Destiny were huge in Japan, especially in regards to popularity, ratings, model kit, home video and merchandise sales, but I don't know how popular was Code Geass compared to SEED, I always believed it was pretty popular among the otaku crowd, but since the first season was a late-night series I thought its popularity was kinda of limited, particularly in regards to traditional merchandise, don't know how well the model kits for the different Knightmare Frames sold in comparison to Gunpla, but I'm sure Bandai sold many C.C. and Kalen figurines, and there were also plenty of manga and video game spin-offs. Still, Code Geass was the most popular series between the years 2006 and 2008 and there's still people talking about the show online, but I feel it's already old enough that younger anime fans probably haven't heard about it, aside from some references online. Rozé from the Recapture wasn't as popular compared to other anime that premiered this year, though to be fair, the series had a lot of problems.
I don't know if Bandai/Sunrise is kind of desperate to have another popular mecha series alongside Gundam and since the orginal Code Geass is approaching its 20th anniversary I can imagine a remake being considered. The problem with Code Geass is that unlike Gundam, it does not lend itself to have continuations, the main story it's to closely tied to Lelouch, I think that was the reason why Akito and Rozé weren't as popular.
As a side note, I still find it funny that this year Rozé of the Recapture managed to receive a Neutral Spanish dub, despite the fact that neither the original series and the Akito OVA were never dubbed, while a couple of months ago Lelouch of the Rebellion received a European Spanish dub, but Rozé wasn't dubed there.
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jroa
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:20 pm
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Code Geass was never as popular as Gundam SEED, yet it still does have a lot of fans. There were a few issues with Roze of the Recapture, including the fact that Disney+ does not promote the majority of their anime productions and that limits exposure in the West, but I'd argue it likely was considered a success in objective terms.
You can easily find a lot of positive comments about the majority of Roze, especially if you can read posts on Japanese social media and how they reacted to each of the Roze films every month. Outside of the last film, which had some controversial parts (although one or two of those could be easily resolved with a sequel or prequel), most Japanese Code Geass fans were satisfied, so it would be natural for there to be more Code Geass projects in the works.
There's admittedly a number of things that could have been improved, particularly at the end of the story, and Roze certainly could have used either more episodes or more editing to streamline the large cast, yet what ultimately matters is it was generally well-received in Japan. It seems the Lost Stories mobile game is also doing quite well, even though the global version has ended.
In any case, each project would have to be judged by its own merits. "We're working on more Code Geass" is a very open-ended statement. I hope they will announce more specifics next year.
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Vapewi
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:21 pm
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jroa wrote: | Code Geass was never as popular as Gundam SEED. |
I don't really care which one of them is more popular, but Gundam Seed isn't nearly as big as Code Geass.
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Waid Rabby Nadaga
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:47 pm
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As a mech fan , I'm always excited for new or contiuning series. That being said I do hope they try something different with the next projects.
Maybe even go into the future, or see other different Geass powers...
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:41 pm
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It's just kind of frustrating to me they keep milking Code Geass while most of anime fandom keeps ignoring Goro Taniguchi's more recent original works even though Back Arrow and Estab Life were really quite good.
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Cryten
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:27 am
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IMO this series needs to go to rest, or find a way to do Final Fantasy style in the spirit of the show new stories.
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GNPixie
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:02 am
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Wonder if this means they might be willing to adapt some of the weirder sidestories since they aren't afraid of having multiple timelines already.
Nightmare of Nunally adaption would be kind of amazing if they did it. Most people probably haven't read the latter stuff; it gets wild.
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Waid Rabby Nadaga
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:50 am
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I have not seen Estab Life, but purchased a Funimation subscription to watch Back Arrow.
Back Arrow was uneven, paticularly toward the end. But at least it actually tried something different. I agree if Code Geass became more adventrous (which given the Mystic nature of the Geass is certainly possible) it could work better.
Sunrise in general has tried this (to admittedly mixed results) with their Gundam like series , that take the Gundam cliches and add something different.
Valvrave had mystical themes like immortal indestructible pilots, mixed in with super robot themes.
Buddy Complex had time travel, and a rather unique pair themed Newtype like piloting system.
Okay neither series did well, but they at least tfried something different, and Code Geass had sucess with it's mystic themes.
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Silver Kirin
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:51 pm
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Waid Rabby Nadaga wrote: | I have not seen Estab Life, but purchased a Funimation subscription to watch Back Arrow.
Back Arrow was uneven, paticularly toward the end. But at least it actually tried something different. I agree if Code Geass became more adventrous (which given the Mystic nature of the Geass is certainly possible) it could work better.
Sunrise in general has tried this (to admittedly mixed results) with their Gundam like series , that take the Gundam cliches and add something different.
Valvrave had mystical themes like immortal indestructible pilots, mixed in with super robot themes.
Buddy Complex had time travel, and a rather unique pair themed Newtype like piloting system.
Okay neither series did well, but they at least tfried something different, and Code Geass had sucess with it's mystic themes. |
I remeber watching Valvrave back when it came out and it was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, it felt like a cross between Gundam SEED and Code Geass, I don't think it was a success for Sunrise, I don't remember too many people talking about the show, except for a certain episode. Aside from Buddy Complex the other original mecha anime made by Sunrise was AMAIM Warrior at the Borderline, which also felt like a combination between Code Geass, since the series Japan portrayed Japan as an occupied territory, but the mechs looked like Mobile Suits and I think the character designs were done by the same person who designed the characters in Iron-Blooded Orphans, AMAIM managed to get a continuation which aired recently.
Speaking about Taniguchi, the only other series directed by him that I watched in its entirety was Infinite Ryvious, which I actually really enjoyed, but that anime predates Code Geass by 7 or so years. I've heard good things about s-CRY-ed and Planetes, but I don't anybody talking about GUN×SWORD
Going back to Code Geass, I think it's very hard to try to replicate the success of the original series, I tend to frequent some fan pages focused on the series and most of the posts are focused on the characters from the original series, the characters of Akito the Exiled are Barely mentioned, though some of Rozé's characters were well received, though I only see posts about Sakuya, Ash and Catherine.
I don't know if this sounds crazy, but I think a remake of the original Lelouch of the Rebelion could be a good idea, something in the vein of the Rebuild of Evangelion movies and the Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy, a sort of Alternate Universe retelling, but with some big changes to the story, not like those retcons done in the compilation films, perhaps using the original proposals Taniguchi and his team had for R2 until Sunrise ordered them to change everything when they changed the timeslot.
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Calsolum
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:08 pm
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Wow I've got mixed feeling about this. On one hand I'm glad that Code Geass is still popular and going strong all these years later. On the other hand I'm sad that it came at the cost of retconning the original anime series(creating an alternate universe) and undoing a 'perfect' ending(2008). An ending that could have continued but they'd have to deal with certain consequences instead they took the easy way out and just retconned pivotal scenes. Or so I've read. Other than some reviews and articles I haven't consumed any media past that original ending.
If they ever make any stories in the original timeline and not the 'alternate universe' that all of the new media seems to be in I'd give it a go.
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