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skemono
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:24 pm
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Quote: | the series ran in Suspiria |
Didn't Suspiria debut in 1987, months after this book was published?
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mdo7
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:53 pm
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Rebecca, you wrote: | Dating to 1986 does come with its issues, mostly in the form of shaming the cowardly overweight character Dai; people repeatedly tell him how stupid it is for him to be afraid of things when he's so big, because apparently in the 80s people equated courage with physical size. He's also shamed for being a boy who has fears, and there's one small racist image in the museum chapter. |
I assume this manga will come with a cultural/translation note at near the end of the book (like most manga do when it get translated in English) to explain that 80's specific aspect, am I right? So that should reduce any confusion or any readers being taken aback by the lack of 1980's cultural or norms knowledge at that time. I'm not concern about the one small racist image and given this was written in the late 80's and before manga became popular globally so I'm not going to let that turn me off. Also, I can handle any art/penciling from the 80's given that I myself read older comic book (ie: I've been reading Golden age, & Silver age DC Comics since last year and the older art/penciling didn't bother me).
Anything 80's specific won't bother me because I'm a history nerd and If I encounter something I'm not familiar with, I can look it up (ie: Google it) and assumingly it has that information on that history online (in English of course). Overall, this manga look interesting for me to borrow (assuming I can get it one way or another). Thanks for the review.
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:37 pm
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mdo7 wrote: |
I assume this manga will come with a cultural/translation note at near the end of the book (like most manga do when it get translated in English) to explain that 80's specific aspect, am I right? So that should reduce any confusion or any readers being taken aback by the lack of 1980's cultural or norms knowledge at that time. |
Not in the review copy I have. It could just have been left out, but as far as cultural/historical bits and pieces go, it's not a terrible omission. I seem to recall having seen similar elements in movies from the 80s.
Quote: | (ie: I've been reading Golden age, & Silver age DC Comics since last year and the older art/penciling didn't bother me). |
Me too! I have a pretty decent collection of romance and gothic comics from the Golden through Bronze ages. They're lots of fun and also really interesting cultural snapshots.
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Rowri8
Joined: 28 Nov 2014
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:47 am
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"people repeatedly tell him how stupid it is for him to be afraid of things when he's so big"
Yes we used to say that as a joke (still do a lot of the times) to bigger kids because they would be as strong as a Sumo wrestler and that nothing affects them (like how a sumo wrestler deflects damage and can push anyone away).
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shosakukan
Joined: 09 Jan 2014
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:35 pm
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skemono wrote: |
Quote: | the series ran in Suspiria |
Didn't Suspiria debut in 1987, months after this book was published? |
The Akita Shoten publishing company had the 'Horror Comics' imprint, and the original Japanese edition tankōbon of Occult Detective Club: Graveyard of the Death Dolls by Hino Hideshi was a 'Horror Comics' manga tankōbon.
Whilst manga tankōbon published under the 'Horror Comics' imprint included tankōbon of which manga were originally carried in the Suspiria magazine (For example, the 'That Devil' manga tankōbon by Oyamada Iku was a 'Horror Comics' tankōbon, and its contents were originally carried in the Suspiria magazine), the covers of early manga tankōbon published under the 'Horror Comics' imprint say the term 'Kakioroshi', and in the Japanese publishing world the term 'Kakioroshi' means that a novel, a manga, or the like is published in a book form without the process of being carried in a magazine, a newspaper, or the like.
The cover of the original Japanese edition tankōbon of Occult Detective Club: Graveyard of the Death Dolls, too, says, 'Kakioroshi.' So, the 'Occult Detective Club: Graveyard of the Death Dolls' manga may have been published in a book form in Japan in 1986 without the process of being carried in a magazine.
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