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earl.m
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All right.
Would LOVE for the people at ANN to let us know if they regard this as "copaganda." |
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Dark Mac
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Main cause of death for American cops: shootouts
Main cause of death for Japanese cops: overwork Sure is a big difference there. (yes, I know not that many American cops die from getting shot, and COVID killed more cops than anything over the last couple years) BTW, the article uses policemen despite being about female cops. Is there a reason you don't just use police officers?
You could just read their opinions on it in the preview guide... animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2022/winter/police-in-a-pod/.180775 |
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Ushio
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"yes, I know not that many American cops die from getting shot" I hate this bullshit statistic as it ignores the amount of police shot (maybe they should stop wearing body armour to protect themselves as doing so makes people think it's a 'safe' profession) and the potentially life long maiming and/or crippling injuries. But no those aren't important it's that it has a lower death rate than some other dangerous jobs. |
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DamianSalazar
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It's a bit mental that she left the police force due to overwork but joined the manga industry afterwards.
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earl.m
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That is just it. Based on the preview guide - and a lot of other commentary on the topic - it appears as if they believe that crime is not real and that the police were created by the elites for the sole purpose of using violence to oppress and victimize the underprivileged. I wonder if they regard a former policewoman's recounted experience - which appears to be less "shooting unarmed immigrant BIPOCs in the back and getting off by claiming to have felt threatened" and more actually dealing with criminals that - shocker - do exist and - double shocker - can't be handled by social workers or anyone else. And yes this is relevant: postwar Japan chose to emulate Europe rather than America. Which means that they have the A. generously funded and comprehensive education and social welfare state and B. very strict gun control laws that Americans have been told for the past year would eliminate the need for police. This former police officer and current mangaka's experiencing issues with carrying guns is revealing: we have been told that were social services and gun control enacted then what very few police that would be required wouldn't have to carry guns at all. So ... copaganda then? |
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MFrontier
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It's interesting learning she's drawing from past experience and was actually part of the police force for a good amount of time. It also sounds like Mai is more representative of her experience than Fuji.
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Brent Allison
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I think any form of what could legitimately be called "propaganda" would have to be more systemic in terms of production, distribution, and evaluation of effects by a sufficiently large-scale organization. I have never read this manga, but I would not count a work based on an artist's personal recollections and anecdotes that is not intended by an organization to affect people's attitudes and behavior as "propaganda". Not all persuasive media is propaganda. It may be disagreeable to social scientists who dismiss the validity of broken windows theory, but then lots of manga titles can annoy lots of experts. Though they may pay more attention if it were, say, the National Police Agency producing it. |
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Tempest
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I understand you have an issue with semi-political statements that were made by the reviewers in PG. While this is the same title, your criticism of the PG reviews isn't relevant to this news article. (FWIW, the reviewers did unanimously say that the problem with Police in a Pod was that it was boring, not that it was "copaganda".) Our reviews are editorial pieces where significant personal opinion is permitted. Our news articles (which is what you are commenting on), are fact based and our writers, to the best of their ability, try to avoid injecting any person opinions into the articles. They are also an entirely different team. Your issues with the reviews published in PG are simply not relevant to a news article. If you feel this subject needs more discussion, please feel free to bring it up in feedback. Last edited by Tempest on Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DaResidentDouche
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This is basically what a young buck/whippersnapper born with a silver spoon in his/her mouth would say. |
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Dynamo-
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Doing the job for a decade isn’t exactly going to play outside for the afternoon.. other than that I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. |
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kotomikun
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I'm not a person at ANN, but what you're quoting here is the broken windows theory, a subject of high controversy these days in the US as it seems to have caused a glut of overpolicing. Regardless of whether that has caused similar problems in Japan, it's not hard to see why it would rub many English-speaking viewers the wrong way. We really are in a concerning place these days, though. Apparently, all it takes is an anime reviewer mentioning their own bias about police while talking about a foreign workplace comedy, and now in a completely different thread we've got people talking about the dangers of a nonexistent campaign to do away with police altogether. ("Defund the police" never meant "eliminate police," and no one says that anymore anyway because the old mantra of "tough on crime" won out in the end; same as it ever was.) People who are uncomfortable with this show likely feel that way because it looks like a "moe cops" production, downplaying the issues with police as an institution. Clearly, that was not the author's intention. But, well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Most real police presumably think of themselves as heroes, too. |
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BonusStage
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I think they mean that a lot of people become a cop because they think it'll be about saving lives and protecting people and all kinds of great heroic things , but a lot of it is routine, mundane work that takes it's toll on you. I have a brother in law enforcement. I Most of the calls my brother gets are either domestic calls where two people are arguing over something like a stolen phone or one person refusing to pay back the 100 dollars they borrowed and they're trying to scare the other person into paying up, or for actual crimes, they're typical burglaries that most of the time can't really be solved because there's no witnesses or leads to find someone who smashed a car window and grabbed some items in the middle of the night. That's not a glamorous life at all for someone who wanted to make a difference but realizes a lot of their job is paperwork, and people getting angry at you. |
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Police as an institution where? Because if your main concern is the highly militarized and over-funded police forces of the US, it seems silly (if not dangerously Americentric) to transplant those concerns onto a police force that demonstrably does not have those same issues to the same degree or at all. |
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a_Bear_in_Bearcave
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Exactly. There is no movement to defund police in Poland (because there is no reason to do so), so there is no reason for me to even consider the USA problems when watching Japanese anime, yet for some reason lately every one time police is mentioned in anime, or there is a police detective character like in "Detective is already dead", I have to read about how potentially bad it is to depict police positively, even if it's exactly the same way it's presented in my country's show, and not controversial here in any way. People here just find police from annoying to helpful, depending on situation. It's really annoying USA-centrism, especially when Americans think people in other countries must think the same way as them. I get that it's hard to live in country where police can shoot you if you pull a smartphone out the pocket too quickly and still find defenders, but don't pull rest of the world into your problems. As for:
it seems like something many idealistic teenagers motivated by strong feeling of justice and empathy would say, just like idealistic people who become teachers hoping to help as many kids as possible, so I don't see what's weird about that statement. |
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all-tsun-and-no-dere
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[quote="a_Bear_in_Bearcave"]
https://emerging-europe.com/news/poland-needs-to-address-its-police-brutality-problem/ https://www.article19.org/resources/poland-authorities-must-end-police-brutality-and-persecution-of-protesters-and-journalists/ https://en.odfoundation.eu/a/37553,police-brutality-in-poland-protecting-citizens-and-enforcing-accountability-an-online-event-with-meps/ |
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