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AnimeHeretic
Joined: 10 Jul 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:39 pm
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25 years-- and it will probably be another 25 before we see it in the US
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KudoEdogawa
Joined: 19 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:36 am
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Shudder!
I hope I never see it in the U.S.
U.S. has corrupted too many good anime/manga already, more will only cause more madness.
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one3rd
Joined: 28 Jul 2003
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:51 am
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KudoEdogawa wrote: | U.S. has corrupted too many good anime/manga already, more will only cause more madness. |
That's a bold statement, and I hope you're ready to back that up. Zac and Nagisa will probably come along shortly to prove you wrong.
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Fandrez
Joined: 19 Apr 2004
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Location: Uh... can I get back to you on that?
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:52 am
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Crap.... Doraemon has been running for 25 years...
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Nagisa
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Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:37 pm
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KudoEdogawa wrote: | Shudder!
I hope I never see it in the U.S.
U.S. has corrupted too many good anime/manga already, more will only cause more madness. |
Looking at your avatar, I'm guessing you're just some Detective Conan fanatic with your panties in a bunch that the dub of that series is going to have its name changed to avoid potential costly legal altercations. Right?
Reality check: Detective Conan's dub, Dragon Ball, & 4Kids' properties ARE NOT indicative of the domestic anime industry as a whole, 'kay? In fact, I'd go so far as to say that greater than 75% of all anime released in the US have been given a fair, respectable, dare I say wonderful treatment. ADV, Bandai, Geneon, Synch Point, Viz, Central Park Media, FUNimation, Tokyopop, etc., etc. have all done a commendable job marketing quality anime releases on this side of the world, so how are they "madly corrupting" anime?
Either grow up, or go back to the hole you crawled out of. I'm sick of this damned attitude that some people carry concerning domestic distributors.
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jsyxx
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:49 pm
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I Doraemon really worth checking out though? From the looks of things it appears to be a show about a freakishly super-deformed cat for kids. Of course they must be doing something interesting for it to produce like 30 feature films. I understand though the manga is supposed to be a classic, but can someone educate me on this series?
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:01 pm
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KudoEdogawa wrote: | Shudder!
I hope I never see it in the U.S.
U.S. has corrupted too many good anime/manga already, more will only cause more madness. |
Of all the qualities that a person can have, I've never wished for ignorance and naivete. It seems that you, however, have no such qualms.
Yes, you can name series that the US has "corrupted," but when you compare that to the sheer volume of amazing releases that numerous companies have done, the ratio is quite, quite small. Don't even bother to give anyone any BS about how the only good, pure releases of anime are your OMG SO KEWL FANSUBS.
Anime companies are not the anti-Christ. I'm all for dead-on translations and non-edited material too, but whiny fans who do nothing but moan about how much they hate US anime companies (when they're really in no position to judge) really chap my ass.
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sacchan
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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Location: Okinawa, Japan
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:58 pm
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I was watching a TV program the other day that had an interesting point of why Doraemon is so popular in many countries but was never released in the U.S.
The problem is in the main character, Nobita. He's a wimpy kid who is always depending on stuff from Doraemon's yojigen(4th dimensional?) pocket to get him out of trouble. (Well, the easy way out usually backfires, though )
Anyway, the point that the TV program made was that U.S. believes in nurturing independence, and therefore Doraemon is considered "not suitable" for kids.
I think Doraemon is a great program for kids, though. It is broken up into 1/4 hour segments, and each segement features an amazing tool from Doraemon (cat robot from the future)'s pocket. On rare occasions, the story can move even an adult to tears This usually happens in the movies and the maboroshino ending.
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Fandrez
Joined: 19 Apr 2004
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Location: Uh... can I get back to you on that?
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 12:17 pm
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Stupid U.S. and they TV laws....
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AM Chair
Joined: 09 May 2004
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:35 pm
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I agree with you here. It's a shame that some producer won't go out on a limb to get Doraemon to the US...unedited. But that won't ever happen. The show is a window on Japanese culture in a way. It takes some things for granted that we would not allow in the US, like Shizuka-chan's occasional shower scenes, a little bath house homor, Giang's bullying ways and Seneo's rich kid attitude.
But it does have a story to tell, both adults and children can sit through it and be amused and moved. Fujio-Fujiko, the creators of the series have other shows that are equally thought provoking that we'll never see. Nobita may be a wimpy fourth year student, but in the stories were he needs to show strength of character, he does. I love the writing that goes into it, like a bunch of "what if" scenarios that come to life.
Want more space to play in your cramped room? Push out a wall with a special gadget from the future. Too dangerous to play outside in the street? A special elevator gun raises you 30 feet into unused space for a huge play ground. Then there's the roller skates that roll on walls These little stories point out everyday challenges in Japanese life from a child and adult level.
One series I'd like see make it to video here is the Smiling Salesman, one of the darker Fujio offerings. But one day America will be able to handle Doraemon. If you haven't seen it, check it out. It IS a child's show, but the writing is very adult, and you'll enjoy a break from dark and cheesecake anime. There are some HK DVD box sets making the rounds.
Revell
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sacchan
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:55 pm
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Warau Salesman...I used to watch that show!
It's been a long while since I've heard that name. Natsukashii~
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jsyxx
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:53 pm
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Quote: | Anime companies are not the anti-Christ. I'm all for dead-on translations and non-edited material too, but whiny fans who do nothing but moan about how much they hate US anime companies (when they're really in no position to judge) really chap my ass. |
Actually you should be saying god bless whiney fans, because they are the ones who cause change. I remember a time when most dubs and subs were crap. The only reason there was a change was because of years of complaing from fanboys. And there are so many things you can thank whiney fans for. If it wasn't for endless complaining, you would still be reading your manga left to right.
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:05 pm
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Oh, I'm sorry. Pardon me, you're right. The entire anime industry sways and heaves at the every whim of anime fans whimpering on forums. Every tidal wave in the anime industry is caused by some tiny ripple of an anime fan on some lonesome little corner.
You're right.
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jmays
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Joined: 29 Jul 2002
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:16 pm
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J-Syxx wrote: | If it wasn't for endless complaining, you would still be reading your manga left to right. |
But you see, there's a big difference between useful criticism and uninformed pouting. Anime on DVD launched several years ago with the purpose of encouraging anime companies to support DVDs, and then pressing them to improve the quality of the discs. I think it's safe to say AoD has had a sizeable (positive) impact on today's industry.
On the flipside, we have this:
KudoEdogawa wrote: | Shudder!
I hope I never see it in the U.S.
U.S. has corrupted too many good anime/manga already, more will only cause more madness. |
This isn't the kind of "complaining" that accomplishes anything. It's this ridiculous "omigod the sky is falling" drivel that gives fans with thoughtful criticisms a bad name and discourages companies from paying attention to the fans at all.
So no, we don't need more of this.
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