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Eden of the East - DVD original opening.


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darkcloud9



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:23 am Reply with quote
I am starting this topic mostly because I am pissed off at who's ever fault it was, for only putting the original opening song by Oasis for Eden of the East on only the 1st episode of the DVD and not the rest, but I am trying to mostly find out what really happened. I already that Funimation fought really hard to get at least the first episode to have the original opening song, but it seems like they should have fought harder by taking Oasis or the record company or the anime company who owns Eden of the East to court because you should not mess with making another opening song for an anime series when one that fits it already so perfectly. Now people that have never heard about Eden of the East and all of a sudden pick it up and watch the DVD will never know what happened to the original song by Oasis. I think not letting the viewers hear the original opening song on every episode is very unfair to do to us because the song that Funimation substituted for the original doesn't even time with the animations at all like the original did. And the anime company who owns Eden of the East and Funimation lie to the viewers by not letting them know what really happened to the original opening song (the opening song was the one of the best parts of Eden of the East, I think). The anime company who owns Eden of the East is not letting viewers have the full experience of watching Eden of the East.

Anyway, went a bit off topic there. What I mainly want to find out (I've tried to find out, but have not had much luck) is why the decision was made to substitute the original song out for a different song in Eden of the East because usually this kind of substitution of opening songs is not done unless there are more seasons in an anime series (There is only one season for Eden of the East). I don't need to know about the licensing problems with the record company or Oasis or Funimation because I already know about buying the licenses for music rights. I want to know the WHOLE STORY! Mostly about the discussions that went on between Funimation, Oasis, Oasis's record company, and the anime company that owns Eden of the East. Thanks everyone.

Feel free to say what you guys believe about the Eden of the East DVD too. Other than the opening song of the all the episodes accept the first, Eden of the East is a great anime series.
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Darksorrow29



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:35 am Reply with quote
It's called 'money'.

-edit- we are lucky we even get it in episode 1. Just be happy like I am that it was licensed (not that there was much doubt).
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kyokun703



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:40 am Reply with quote
Darksorrow29 wrote:
It's called 'money'.

-edit- we are lucky we even get it in episode 1.


This. At least we got it in one episode. Unlike the first NANA ED song, which Viz couldn't get the rights to at all, and they had to use the second ED song instead.


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Sima Yi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:41 am Reply with quote
darkcloud9 wrote:
I already that Funimation fought really hard to get at least the first episode to have the original opening song, but it seems like they should have fought harder by taking Oasis or the record company or the anime company who owns Eden of the East to court because you should not mess with making another opening song for an anime series when one that fits it already so perfectly.


You're joking right? Suing a company because they refuse to licence out their intellectual property to you? Laughing
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darkcloud9



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:50 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I'm joking. Though it really is unfair that they did not let the viewers see all the episodes with the original opening song.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:56 am Reply with quote
Who really watches the openings and endings more than once anyway? That's what the Chapter Skip button is for: watching the show you bought the DVD for. And it is a great show by the way.

I like the song personally, so I went and bought it off ITunes for a buck, and can listen to it whenever and in it's full length.
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Unicorn_Blade



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:36 am Reply with quote
As a person who believes that the opening song was one of very few good things about the series, I can understand what you're saying. But, on the other hand, I personally skip the opening sequence after I am familiar with it... I dont think people will be really bothered by hearing the opening just once. There is a number of series that had one opening/ending featuring in a single episode only (most of the time in last episodes of series), so it is not that uncommon. At least people will get to hear the Oasis intro once to decide whether they like the song or not.
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Key
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:24 am Reply with quote
Unicorn_Blade wrote:
I personally skip the opening sequence after I am familiar with it... I don't think people will be really bothered by hearing the opening just once. There is a number of series that had one opening/ending featuring in a single episode only (most of the time in last episodes of series), so it is not that uncommon. At least people will get to hear the Oasis intro once to decide whether they like the song or not.


In other cases you might be correct, but you're vastly underestimating how much the fan base loved the fit of "Falling Down" as an opener for this series. I was seriously irked to hear it was gone, and I know many others that were, too.

And Kruszer: If it's a good opener or closer, I typically won't skip it unless I'm in a hurry.

To the OP: It's irritating, but this is far from the only time it's happened and money is always involved. If you don't want to hear about licensing issues then no one's going to be able to give you a satisfactory answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:26 am Reply with quote
Not the first time I've heard of Funimation running into licensing issues for getting the song to a title's soundtrack. I recall they ran into problems getting the rights to TOKIO's 7 O'Clock News, the first opening song to Kodocha, and were forced to remove references to the band found in one of the gags for the earlier episodes of the show and using one of the later opening songs in its place. I can't really blame Funimation for not putting the song into later episodes if the circumstances were beyond their control yet I can see where some would be disappointed that they can't hear the song beyond the first episode.
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KanjiiZ



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:30 pm Reply with quote
I freaking hate Oasis so I'm pretty happy to hear the song is gone. The opening is so depressing and always made me want to turn the show off. The new song isn't amazing, but it's better in my eyes. I just want the Blu-Ray to arrive at my house already!
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Gentry



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:20 pm Reply with quote
Why does it cost to use the song on more than one episode? If you've bought the rights to the song to be used in the series then why would it matter how many times it's used on the same disc?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:49 pm Reply with quote
Gentry wrote:
Why does it cost to use the song on more than one episode? If you've bought the rights to the song to be used in the series then why would it matter how many times it's used on the same disc?


I imagine Funi had to pay trademark fees to Oasis' record label for each time the song was used within the anime. Having to play for each episode of the series might have been too costly for Funi to afford for the label.
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Gentry



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:55 pm Reply with quote
Ggultra2764 wrote:
Gentry wrote:
Why does it cost to use the song on more than one episode? If you've bought the rights to the song to be used in the series then why would it matter how many times it's used on the same disc?


I imagine Funi had to pay trademark fees to Oasis' record label for each time the song was used within the anime. Having to play for each episode of the series might have been too costly for Funi to afford for the label.
Why didn't they just use it anyway and change their adress and phone numbers so that the record company couldn't get in contact. Seems like Funi dropped the ball on this one.
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Unicorn_Blade



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:56 pm Reply with quote
Gentry wrote:
Why does it cost to use the song on more than one episode? If you've bought the rights to the song to be used in the series then why would it matter how many times it's used on the same disc?


it all depends on the licence terms. You can buy the rights to the song, but only for a certain period of time, it does not have to be forever and ever.
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Gentry



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:58 pm Reply with quote
Unicorn_Blade wrote:
Gentry wrote:
Why does it cost to use the song on more than one episode? If you've bought the rights to the song to be used in the series then why would it matter how many times it's used on the same disc?


it all depends on the licence terms. You can buy the rights to the song, but only for a certain period of time, it does not have to be forever and ever.
Why couldn't funi have claimed it was the exact same video file just being repeated... do they have to pay each time the song physically airs itself to the listeners ears.
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