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11G4GUNOT
Joined: 31 Mar 2012
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:00 pm
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It's too bad this show won't be broadcasted in the US unlike Italy.
worth watching on the internet then *facepalm
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:02 pm
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" may make you bawl like a baby in front of your guy friends."
That's why I watched it alone. And it was a good call. Both for the show, and for watching it alone.
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EnigmaticSky
Joined: 06 Aug 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:06 pm
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I thought this would be good to watch with my girlfriend, but I would probably end up crying too... I didn't cry at Clannad After Story, but it seems that it would be impossible to not cry during this. I have already bought the set, and plan to watch it soon, though I may watch it by myself.
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Volibear
Joined: 29 Nov 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:08 pm
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DmonHiro wrote: | " may make you bawl like a baby in front of your guy friends."
That's why I watched it alone. And it was a good call. Both for the show, and for watching it alone. |
exactly. you knew it was gonna get teary at the end, fly solo on the last ep and enjoy it
it was a good series all round, absolutely shocked it took so long to actually get picked up by someone, it was definitely worth a pick-up after the finale, and probably much earlier than that
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Fronzel
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:18 pm
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I gave up on this one after three or four episodes. I thought Menma was annoying and didn't really care about anyone else. After an episode blown watching people play Pokemon and the silliness of that one guy disguising himself as Menma I'd had enough.
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Chagen46
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:23 pm
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You know, is there any particular reason that these "crying anime" have become somewhat popular.
I mean, they're not super-popular, but there's more than few dramas that basically are designed as Tear-Jerker factories. And VN's are filled with those kinds of stories too.
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braves
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:26 pm
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Quote: | Nagai... his only real trademark is his characters, whose angular jaws and expressive mouths are as distinctive as a fingerprint. |
Just a clarification, it's pretty clear this is Masayoshi Tanaka's style and not Nagai's. He even carries this over to his other works that don't have Nagai as director (Highschool of the Dead)
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:26 pm
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This one only does that at the end, and that's because of an overwrought and melodramatic scene.
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dtm42
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:27 pm
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I have three big problems with this show.
The first is that Menma could have just picked up a pen at any point and proven to the other kids that she was a ghost.
The second is that the ending tried too hard to be emotionally moving. At best it came off as unintentional comedy. And at worst it was downright incompetent and slightly ruined what was a hitherto great show.
The third, and most egregious, is that the ending theme is so catchy I can't stop listening to it.
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darkhappy1
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:29 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | You know, is there any particular reason that these "crying anime" have become somewhat popular.
I mean, they're not super-popular, but there's more than few dramas that basically are designed as Tear-Jerker factories. And VN's are filled with those kinds of stories too. |
Perhaps people would like to release their bottled-up sadness and semi-conscious guilt in an easily distinguished bawww-fest nowadays. Maybe?
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Animegomaniac
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:31 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | You know, is there any particular reason that these "crying anime" have become somewhat popular.
I mean, they're not super-popular, but there's more than few dramas that basically are designed as Tear-Jerker factories. And VN's are filled with those kinds of stories too. |
It's called "drama" or rather "melodrama" and it's been around as long as theater's been around. Say 2500 years, maybe 4000...
As for AnoHana, I'm kind of sick of complaining about it. Sickness, pain, dying, those bring me to tears, even with my heart of stone. She started dead, they started angsty. They got better, she ... stayed dead. Look Ma, no tears...
What's that phrase? "Gullible is an understatement"?
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Chagen46
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:39 pm
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dtm42 wrote: |
The second is that the ending tried too hard to be emotionally moving. At best it came off as unintentional comedy. And at worst it was downright incompetent and slightly ruined what was a hitherto great show.
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At this point, I've reserved myself to the fact that anime tends to have massive difficulties ending properly.
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emohamlet
Joined: 24 Jul 2012
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:22 pm
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Quote: | The second is that the ending tried too hard to be emotionally moving. At best it came off as unintentional comedy. And at worst it was downright incompetent and slightly ruined what was a hitherto great show. |
This is exactly the reason that I've been putting off watching this.
I simply cannot go through another Clannad. Too soon. Still recovering.
Here's the problem: there is only so much you can do with external emoting and there's a limit to how much external emotional stimuli one person can receive.
I know it's not anime's fault: it's simply a medium with some natural limitations.
You can't do method acting in anime, for instance; or you can't achieve a certain underlying emotion, that is normal to live humans, but cannot be achieved through animation, no matter how big eyes you give them(looking at you, Clannad).
100 percent genuine human emotion is
impossible in anime, period.
You may get close, very close, but never truly lifelike.
Anime tries to compensate for this by cranking the external emotion volume button all the way to 10, hoping for the best.
More often than not, all that happens is that the speaker explodes, rupturing my eardrum and inflicting even more brain damage, than I already have from watching Ef, Clannad, Angel Beats and so on.
Why do watch these shows anyway, you may ask?
Because I'm kinda stupid that way.
PS: I'm rather new here, so I don't know what to expect from you guys, but pleased to meet you all.
Please be gentle.
I bruise easily
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invalidname
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:47 pm
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Chagen46 wrote: | You know, is there any particular reason that these "crying anime" have become somewhat popular.
I mean, they're not super-popular, but there's more than few dramas that basically are designed as Tear-Jerker factories. And VN's are filled with those kinds of stories too. |
Maybe because there's nothing like it in western media, and that's why people who would like it are turning to anime? Anohana seems of the same vein as the VN-based romantic tragedies -- Clannad, ef, Rumbling Hearts, that kind of thing -- and they're all arguably seinen. Heck, most of the ones that started as VNs actually started as eroge, so they almost have to be considered seinen. And if that's true and the target demographic is adult men… well, where in western pop culture would you find an equivalent? Romantic comedies and dramas on TV and film are considered almost exclusively the domain of women in the our pop culture, so much so that it's hard to think of recent movies or books in those genres told from a male point-of-view.
Sorry, just a little theory I've been contemplating, and I certainly don't mean to offend younger or female fans of these shows. Just kind of explains why I, as a 45-year-old male, am so into this stuff.
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Chagen46
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:50 pm
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I was actually more referring to the genre's popularity in Japan.
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