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Urusei Yatsura OVAs - Number of Episodes Incorrect




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Giolon
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:37 pm Reply with quote
anime#653

I reported this about three weeks ago, because while I could figure out how to add a new episode, I couldn't figure out how to update the count. How long is it normally supposed to take to have errors corrected?

The ANN page says 11, but there are 12 as of 2008! I provided 3 separate sources along with my error report:

This series has 12 episodes as of 2008. I couldn't find a way to update this number, only episode titles (to which I added the 12th).

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Furinkan: http://www.furinkan.com/uy/anime/ova.htm

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urusei_Yatsura#OVA_releases

ANN Report on the debut of the 12th OVA: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-12-09/event-only-urusei-yatsura-anime-to-debut-this-month

Amazon JP: Rumic World DVD release of 12th OVA: http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B002IWF242/


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:00 pm Reply with quote
See the Wikipedia article Amazon Standard Identification Number for shorter Amazon URLs. I.e.,

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B002IWF242/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:15 pm Reply with quote
Well that's good to know, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:41 am Reply with quote
Giolon wrote:
Well that's good to know, thanks!

You're welcome. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:53 pm Reply with quote
The number of episodes is still incorrect. How long does it normally take for admins/editors to correct this kind of thing once evidence and sources have been provided?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:29 pm Reply with quote
It can take several years for error reports to be acted on. I know I have ones that have been in the system for more than 2 years. I've only ever had one take less than a few months to be corrected, and that one doesn't show up in the list of error reports that I made suggesting it wasn't fixed because of the error report but because the person who entered the information noticed it was wrong and fixed it.

However, in this case I think your error report is incorrect and I've now posted a comment opposing it. The new special isn't part of the OAV series and should get its own entry in the encyclopedia. It isn't really even an OAV, since it was shown at the Rumic World exhibition as opposed to being a direct to video release (though it was also available on DVD). Even if it were a direct to video release, since it was produced separately from the OAVs and many years later, it should have its own entry in the encyclopedia.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:37 am Reply with quote
After investigating the case I'm more inclined to Calathan's opinion: the 2008 trilogy was made with characters from three different titles, and the other two don't have an existing OVA to append to. We might need an independent entry. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:51 pm Reply with quote
The 2008 release actually consists of new episodes of each of the three shows. It's not one giant cross over (aside from an opening montage). I've seen it.

Additionally, according to Furinkan (search the front page for "Blu-Ray"), each OVA episode is sold individually in addition to being made a box set. See the standalone Urusei Yatsura "Obstacle Course Swim Meet" Blu-Ray listing on CDJapan here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PCXE-50075 (Edit: Here's an Amazon JP link too: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00405SM6K/ )

The fact that the episode(s) was screened at a limited engagement shouldn't really it from being categorized as an OVA. It's not a TV show. It's not a movie. If you want to categorize it as a separate entry, I'm not opposed. The episode should be listed with the Urusei Yatsura franchise in some fashion, so those looking for information on the series can find it. Exactly how that's done I have no stake in.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:19 pm Reply with quote
Actually, Dormcat, Ranma 1/2 does have an OAV entry, and the Rumic World special has been listed there (see animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=200&page=25). However, I feel that is incorrect, and I've voted to support the new anime submission for that special (see animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/new-anime.php?approve=1799206625).

For the Inuyasha special, the situation is more complicated as it was later reused as an episode of Inuyasha: The Final Act. It has been submitted as a new anime (animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/new-anime.php?approve=1909566486), and I'm in favor of adding it, but since several people have voted against it (including Tempest), it seems like it won't be added. I just don't see the logic of that, as I'm pretty sure it was a separate production from the TV series (if it had been added to the encyclopedia when it first was released, would you really have removed the entry when they decided to reuse it as part of the TV series?), but it seems like I'm in the minority on that opinion.

Anyway, I don't think the new Urusei Yatsura special has been submitted to be added to the encyclopedia. Giolon, my recommendation would be to submit it as a new anime (you can do so at animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/new-anime.php). You basically just need to provide the same information that you gave here, and it should eventually be added to the encyclopdia and linked up to the rest of the franchise (though there is also a backlog there similar to with the error reports, so it can take months or years for something to be added).

I was also thinking of submitting the 3 minute introduction to the Rumic World specials as a separate anime, since I would like to be able to say in the encyclopedia that I've watched it (well once I watch it . . . I don't like to watch things until they have an entry in the encyclopedia so I can keep better track of what I've watched). If the three specials end up as a single entry then the introduction clearly doesn't need its own entry, but I'm of the opinion that the specials should have separate entries. That would leave the introduction with no where to go except its own entry.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:50 am Reply with quote
Calathan wrote:
Actually, Dormcat, Ranma 1/2 does have an OAV entry, and the Rumic World special has been listed there (see animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=200&page=25).

The so-called "Ranma ½ OAV" was actually a combination of three titles. Having the word "OAV" within the title and merging separate titles were relics that plagued US-licensed anime in the previous millennium. Rolling Eyes And yes, I know there's a Rumic World, but it was a very different collection from this one we're talking about, in addition to "It's a" prefix.

I'd suggest two separate overhauls:

1) Establish a "It's a Rumic World" anthology, containing the three comical OVA, with each has links to their respective manga originals.

2) Establish "Ranma ½ Special" and "Ranma ½ Super" entries, move appropriate credits and facts to them, then edit release info so US-released "Ranma ½ OAV" could contain all three titles.

Any suggestion besides Calathan's and Giolon's?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:13 pm Reply with quote
Dormcat, your suggestions sound good to me. If the Ranma 1/2 OAVs were three separate groups of OAVs that were only combined into one entity in the U.S., then I think they should be separated out.

For the new specials, making an anthology entry in addition to separate entries for each of the three specials makes sense to me. If the Inuyasha special is given an entry, I would think it should have links to both the anthology entry and the second TV series that it was used as an episode in (i.e., at the top it could say "part of [It's a Rumic World], part of [Inuyasha: The Final Act]"). But if Tempest (i.e. Christopher Macdonald) voted against the Inuyasha special getting its own entry, are the encyclopedia staff able to give it an entry anyway if you disagree with him?

If an anthology entry is used (i.e. the sort of entry that doesn't allow you to mark it as seen or provide a rating, but which only contains other anime), I would still like to see the introduction sequence get its own entry (and be included in the anthology), so that people can say they saw it and give it a rating.
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