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yuna49



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:36 am Reply with quote
I've been trying to watch episode one of Moyashimon on Funi's YouTube channel every day since it was released on Thursday. Right now, it's early Saturday morning in the US, but the amount of buffering makes the show unwatchable. That's been true other mornings and evenings and, essentially, just about any time I've tried.

I could watch the show on Hulu, but that outlet has more ads, and they're much more obnoxious. The Hulu ads are much louder and more obtrusive than the ads on YouTube, and there are more of them as well. Just the other day I watched the final episode of House of Five Leaves and was treated to a very loud ad for that caffeine drink right after one of the most quiet and sad moments in the entire series. Those Motorola ads were too loud and obnoxious as well. I used to buy Moto phones, but not after watching those ads.

I accept that watching ads is the price we pay for streaming, but I'd prefer that the ads be at or near the same volume as the program content, and that they be screened by Funi for appropriateness to the subject matter. Really what I'd like most of all is for them to fix the YouTube portal so the endless buffering goes away.

BTW, I'm on a FiOS connection so the buffering is not a bandwidth problem on my end. If Funi pays YouTube to carry their shows, they need to be getting better performance than they seem to have at the moment. I'd like to give Funi the benefit of the doubt here and not have to think that the YouTube showings are just unwatchable teasers that are designed to push us to Hulu.

Edit: I found the YouTube problem was on my end. I still think the Hulu ads are obnoxious though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:18 am Reply with quote
Just as when I watch something on CR at 720 if watch something on Youtube like that I start it up, pause it, and do something else until I don't have to worry about the buffer anymore.

As for Hulu ads, I think half the problem is that some Funimation shows play too quietly. The absolute worst I've come across is Chevalier D'eon- whose sound mix is completely off- voices are at a whisper, the bg music is twice as loud and when you get to a commercial it blasts the room. Not to say the ads aren't slighty louder, it's one of the oldest tricks in the advertising business, but it's even worse because the Funi vids there are quiet.
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larinon



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:07 pm Reply with quote
Funimation also hosts all of their videos on their site. I watched both Shiki and Moyashimon on there last night and do not remember having any problems with buffering or with the volume fluctuating between content and commercials. Sometimes it's better to go right to the source.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:08 pm Reply with quote
I have no trouble with Funimation or youtube, but Crunchyroll does that buffering crap to me all of a sudden as of like a month ago and makes watching anything there impossible. My connection is broadband so it shouldn't happen and it's only CR that does it out of all the free streaming sites I go to. Before a month ago I could access CR any time of the day with no problem with the stream. Confused

EDIT: Wouldn't you know it, after I posted this, I went there again and it works fine now....their players larger now too. Confused


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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Speaking of their Simulcasts, where the hell is Sekirei S2? That's got to be the least talked about show this season.
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KanjiiZ



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:52 pm Reply with quote
^ It is Sekirei.

As for their simulcasts, I'd agree that Hulu is pretty much garbage. Youtube has some of the most annoying ads (Wheat Thins are not good if you're below the age of 75) but they're much shorter than Hulu's ads.

@larinon: But the quality on their site is a bit lower than youtube's quality. It looks really fuzzy.
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wandering-dreamer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:27 pm Reply with quote
The only problem I've found is that when Funimation (or anyone else for that matter) uses an embedded hulu player it doesn't recognize that I'm in the US. Other than that I don't have any problems with buffering and I'm working off a laptop that shares a wi-fi connection with two other computers, both also usually streaming videos when I'm on.
CR sometimes won't play videos for me at all and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Hasn't done that lately and it seems random, my best guess was that the whole site had a lot of traffic and my connection was too slow to keep up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:29 pm Reply with quote
About the volume problem. I just hit the power button on my speakers anyway and turn 'em off so I don't have to listen to them, when they come on, so I really don't experience it.
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zgripţuroicǎ



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:22 pm Reply with quote
My big gripe with streaming sites is that fullscreening them doesn't work properly on my setup. I have a second monitor hooked up that does 1080p HD that I'd like to take advantage of. CR only uses a fraction of my second monitor when I hit fullscreen, Funi's site sends the player to my non HD monitor (although, not as big an issue since I don't think they offer HD streams), and fullscreen on Anime Network's site just keeps to image the same and turns the rest of the screen black. I'd like to more seriously support CR, but they've got some technical bugs to work out. At first I thought it was just because I'm running linux, so maybe my flash packages were a little weird, but Youtube has no problem with it, so I'm guessing it's just something goofy on CR's end.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:20 pm Reply with quote
zgripţuroicǎ wrote:
My big gripe with streaming sites is that fullscreening them doesn't work properly on my setup. I have a second monitor hooked up that does 1080p HD that I'd like to take advantage of. CR only uses a fraction of my second monitor when I hit fullscreen, Funi's site sends the player to my non HD monitor (although, not as big an issue since I don't think they offer HD streams), and fullscreen on Anime Network's site just keeps to image the same and turns the rest of the screen black. I'd like to more seriously support CR, but they've got some technical bugs to work out. At first I thought it was just because I'm running linux, so maybe my flash packages were a little weird, but Youtube has no problem with it, so I'm guessing it's just something goofy on CR's end.

I watch streams on a secondary 1920x1200 monitor on my Windows machine and Crunchyroll fullscreens with no problem. I just watched Megazone 23 on TAN and it worked fullscreen other than the odd white letterboxing. I had a problem with the first Flash 10.1 beta in that crunchyroll would fullscreen on the wrong monitor while Youtube worked normally, but this was fixed in later versions.
It isn't a problem on CR's end as such since it clearly works, but it may be a compatibility issue with your particular setup but I've never fiddled with Flash on Linux.
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zgripţuroicǎ



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:30 pm Reply with quote
Well, considering when I check my flash package I get:
[Morgan@localhost [WH] Umineko Chiru English]$ rpm -qa | grep flash
flash-plugin-10.1.53.64-release.i386

for output, I'm running the exact same flash that you are. My guess would be that they simply haven't gotten around to optimizing performance from linux yet, which I really don't expect them to do right away, considering it represents at best a fraction of their customers. My drivers for audio and video are all up to date as well, which is why I would say they probably haven't gotten around to it. Youtube being owned by google, it would make sense that it would be optimized for linux right away, as google uses their own in-house linux distro on all their corporate computers. Besides, be honest, I'm just a member at CR to offset my bad fansub watching karma, seeing as I still like to have a copy on my harddrive and just don't like watching streams all that much. Until they get things running properly for linux, I'll just watch the odd stream and deal with it.
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:35 pm Reply with quote
zgripţuroicǎ wrote:
At first I thought it was just because I'm running linux, so maybe my flash packages were a little weird, but Youtube has no problem with it, so I'm guessing it's just something goofy on CR's end.

Hulu's player was incompatible with the 64-bit version of Flash 10.1 for Linux. Of course, Adobe has "solved" that problem for us by dropping support for the 64-bit Linux platform entirely.

As for sound levels, I don't think it's just because Funi's shows are too quiet. I think it has more to do with the kinds of advertising that Hulu's partners think might pertain to anime viewers. I doubt anyone at Hulu or its ad partners could possibly imagine that some anime programs might look and sound like House of Five Leaves. They're just cartoons, after all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:52 pm Reply with quote
I'd much rather have Hulu ads than Crunchyroll's. Recently, the first thing you hear is one huge mess that's either for some crappy video game or a something "bold" (IDK what that ad is about). Thankfully I can mute them for the rest of the episode, but not the Skittles ad which plays at the same level (about 2x compared to what I have at the actual episode playing at).

However, I have noticed that Hulu has added an additional ad at the beginning of every episode. I don't mind since I'm not paying, but I've never found their ads to jar in contrast to the show I'm watching. Of course, thanks to the ads on Crunchyroll, once I see that an ad is loading I instinctively throw my headphones back to save my poor ears.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:38 pm Reply with quote
Personally my connection sucks a bit for streaming and the only site that seems to work well with it is Hulu so I don't get the Hulu hate. YouTube has always taken forever to stream for me, unless the clip is extremely short. I put up with it at first because it was better than Funi's Video Portal, which I haven't checked in a while so I hope it's gotten better, but Hulu wins hands down for me.

I haven't had much Crunchyroll experience but I will soon since my sister is leading me her login info and Strike Witches season 2 is on! Cool

For Funi's simulcasts though I've used Hulu and liked it just fine. Ads don't bother me, my sucky connection that sometimes leaves my computer buffering after less than 2 minutes of show bothers me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:50 am Reply with quote
Ugh, every time I watch something on Hulu, it ends up getting stuck on the middlemost commercials; they never load, and I have to refresh and then find my place again Evil or Very Mad It's so frustrating!

Anyway it seems like Hulu is Funi's last stop for uploading their simulcast stuff anyway, in my experience-- their site comes first, then youtube, and then Hulu if you're lucky :p
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