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Viz, ADV, or Tokyopop?


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Mitsuru



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:21 pm Reply with quote
All very popular publishers of manga. Actually, I think ADV is just now on the uprise. I recently bought Demony City Hunter, which was alright. It was kind of old school art.

As for Viz and Tokyopop. Well, I've grown fond of both. Psychic Academy is officially one of my favorite mangas ever, which is from Tokyopop. However, Ceres: Celestial Legend is also one of my faves. It's hard for me to decide which is better. Tokyopop tends to maintain more consistency, and has a wider variety. Viz, I think is more targeted at shoujo.

Which do you like more? Out of the three.
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Jubei



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:23 pm Reply with quote
ADV hasn't gotten a whole lot of manga out as of yet and I'm not crazy about Viz so for now I'm going with Tokyopop. Biggest selection, and it has the best titles so far.
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Shorty22



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:23 pm Reply with quote
I'd have to say Tokyopop with Viz following. Tokyopop has Clamp titles which I seem to love such as 'Magic Knight Rayearth', 'Chobits', and 'Wish' among other non-Clamp titles such as 'Cyborg 009', but Viz has others I like, such as 'Shaman King', 'Naruto', and 'Yugioh'.

Also, Tokyopop has a much bigger selection and their website is helpful with release dates. Viz, on the other hand, has many things I don't like. The rereleases, although good in price, have disrupted the size of my series. Many are still flipped. I guess Tokyopop has spoiled me afterall... Wink
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:38 pm Reply with quote
Forgive me for sounding a little blunt here, but somehow I fail to see the point of this thread. If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

Ultimately, I can understand if you like the way one does things over the other, but even if you don't like the way that one company releases their titles, if you like the title, aren't you still going to buy it anyway?

I guess for me, the publisher isn't really the big thing for me, but rather the content found within.

edit: All things being equal (if the series remains unflipped, and the translation is still adequate) is where I'm getting at. I can understand the issues where things are done poorly, but there isn't much difference to be found by comparing many of the new viz releases to the tokyo pop releases.


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Samurai CDZ



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:40 pm Reply with quote
For me, it's Viz. With Naruto, One Piece, Kenshin, Nausicaa and especially Maison Ikkoku all unflipped, I am very happy. X leaves a bit to be desired.

I'm kinda of biased, though, since I just recently started picking up Chobits and Wish. However, looking at their catalogs I'm much more interested in what Viz has.
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Sesshoumaru sama



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:50 pm Reply with quote
I have manga from different publishers (Viz,Darkhorse, and Tokyopop), so It doesn't matter who the publisher is. If I find a title I like, I will buy it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:45 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
Forgive me for sounding a little blunt here, but somehow I fail to see the point of this thread. If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

Ultimately, I can understand if you like the way one does things over the other, but even if you don't like the way that one company releases their titles, if you like the title, aren't you still going to buy it anyway?

I guess for me, the publisher isn't really the big thing for me, but rather the content found within.


Amen, brother. What does the company matter, when you're likely buying the manga because you like that specific manga title? Me, personally, I'm a big fan of Full Metal Panic! (ADV), X (Viz), Tokyo Babylon (TokyoPop), & Gunsmith Cats (Dark Horse), with plans to eventually collect those series in their entirety. Brand name has no bearing whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:51 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

edit: All things being equal (if the series remains unflipped, and the translation is still adequate) is where I'm getting at. I can understand the issues where things are done poorly, but there isn't much difference to be found by comparing many of the new viz releases to the tokyo pop releases.


I agree with Godaistudios on this. I really just look at the series. If I like it, I like it, if I don't, I don't. I'm not going to say "Tokyopop rules," just because they happen to release Fruits Basket.

It would be a valid argument if one company consitently messed their series up with really, really editing it/poor translations/etc. But from what I think, all the companies are all pretty equal.

I also think that the companies tend to stay within a certain...type of manga. It's kinda hard to compare Naruto, with Marmalade Boy, with Full Metal Panic. A better comparison would be...within the particular company, which series have been the best marketed/presented/etc.

Just a sidenote, from the two volumes (Juvenile Orion, Galaxy Angel) I have from Broccoli, I think they win a vote for best presented material. Their quality beats TP, Viz, or ADV.
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molloaggie



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:07 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
Forgive me for sounding a little blunt here, but somehow I fail to see the point of this thread. If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

Ultimately, I can understand if you like the way one does things over the other, but even if you don't like the way that one company releases their titles, if you like the title, aren't you still going to buy it anyway?

I guess for me, the publisher isn't really the big thing for me, but rather the content found within.

edit: All things being equal (if the series remains unflipped, and the translation is still adequate) is where I'm getting at. I can understand the issues where things are done poorly, but there isn't much difference to be found by comparing many of the new viz releases to the tokyo pop releases.


I agree too. I own manga books published by five or six different studios. The series that I buy but wind up hating always seem to be from Tokyopop. That doesn't stop me from buying other titles. Viz treats some series different from others and is re-releasing so many, so you cannot summerize them too easily anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:23 pm Reply with quote
I like them all. There are alot of manga that i like from all three, so it is hard to decide.

Tsukasa1

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Luff-Chan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:25 pm Reply with quote
Well, they all have titles I like and don't like. I like just about all (5?) manga ADV has released. And can't wait for more.

But I also like Broccoli Very Happy Well, Galaxy Angel was awsome, and its so thick O_o And still 10 dollars. I was happy.

And then there is Dark Horse. Hellsing is great, and I love my MegaTokyo volume 2 (can't wait for volume 1), and Trigun.

So, I think, ALL companies that are releasing manga are really great. Now Viz gets the idea of unflipped manga=happy buyers (most of the time). I know I'm happy with all my purchases.
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rage-demon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:04 pm Reply with quote
Isn't this basically the same as the Tokyopop or Viz thread? After all, ADV hasn't done enough manga to really be anyone's favorite (unless the person is a total fanatic of one of the series that they've done.)

Apart from that, i also agree that it totally depends on the series and not the people who do it. As long as the translation is done correctly and it's treated properly, then it's hard to tell one company from the other. When i look at manga, i don't see different companies; i see different series, different artists, and different stories.

Actully, now that i think about it, i know ADV messed up with Azumanga Daioh volume 1 when they said Yukari Sensei was a Spanish teacher. Plus they did a few other things to try Americanizing Azumanga. But from what i remember, volume 3 of both Azumanga and Full Metal Panic seem to show that ADV is almost fully on track.
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Mitsuru



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:32 pm Reply with quote
Godaistudios wrote:
Forgive me for sounding a little blunt here, but somehow I fail to see the point of this thread. If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

Ultimately, I can understand if you like the way one does things over the other, but even if you don't like the way that one company releases their titles, if you like the title, aren't you still going to buy it anyway?

I guess for me, the publisher isn't really the big thing for me, but rather the content found within.

edit: All things being equal (if the series remains unflipped, and the translation is still adequate) is where I'm getting at. I can understand the issues where things are done poorly, but there isn't much difference to be found by comparing many of the new viz releases to the tokyo pop releases.


Not really. A publisher may have a certain reputation from certain titles. For instance, when it comes to novels, I prefer TOR over Scholastic. Because of its nature.

In addition, to what you have said, I don't really see the point in you posting in my post at all, if you want to be... "hostile" about it, (and I'm simply using your same arguement). I'm not saying don't post. I'm just saying, if you don't like the topic, then you don't have to post in it. However, it is a manga related topic, and this is a manga related forum. Therefore, it has every right to be a topic in this forum as the one below it. While you may not see the point in it, it plays relevance with the subject at hand.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:44 pm Reply with quote
Mitsuru wrote:

Not really. A publisher may have a certain reputation from certain titles. For instance, when it comes to novels, I prefer TOR over Scholastic. Because of its nature.

I can see your point to a certain extent. I am probably more prone to pick up a Tokyopop title than a Viz title, but that could just be a wacky coincidence. TP tends to carry more of the shoujo-y titles while Viz leans more towards the Naruto/Shaman King shounen stuff. But, then you know, Viz puts out stuff like Ceres and Eva, so I still don't think I could say "such and such company is better than the other."
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:45 am Reply with quote
Mitsuru wrote:
Godaistudios wrote:
Forgive me for sounding a little blunt here, but somehow I fail to see the point of this thread. If you like a particular manga title, isn't it the title that is the main attraction and not the publisher?

Ultimately, I can understand if you like the way one does things over the other, but even if you don't like the way that one company releases their titles, if you like the title, aren't you still going to buy it anyway?

I guess for me, the publisher isn't really the big thing for me, but rather the content found within.

edit: All things being equal (if the series remains unflipped, and the translation is still adequate) is where I'm getting at. I can understand the issues where things are done poorly, but there isn't much difference to be found by comparing many of the new viz releases to the tokyo pop releases.


Not really. A publisher may have a certain reputation from certain titles. For instance, when it comes to novels, I prefer TOR over Scholastic. Because of its nature.

In addition, to what you have said, I don't really see the point in you posting in my post at all, if you want to be... "hostile" about it, (and I'm simply using your same arguement). I'm not saying don't post. I'm just saying, if you don't like the topic, then you don't have to post in it. However, it is a manga related topic, and this is a manga related forum. Therefore, it has every right to be a topic in this forum as the one below it. While you may not see the point in it, it plays relevance with the subject at hand.


Hostile? I'd pay to see how you'd react to Zac giving you a reply you didn't agree with.

If you didn't see to point to my posting, then you aren't seeing what at least 5 others did. If you wanted to raise the point of discussing as to which company is better, it might best be phrased without bringing titles into the mix. But since it was the context, I set out to show you (and I think you do understand, I'm not going to insult your intelligence here) that the titles themselves don't mean a thing. All the major publishers are getting into the point of crossing genres, and all are finding ways of establishing reputations for themselves. So building a reputation on titles means nothing in this line.

And with the formats being so common at this point, it's come to a point where title A looks a lot like title B when it comes down to it. They are publishing things right to left, in unflipped format. While ADV is new to the game, one look at the titles available to them shows that they will be releasing a lot more, and will probably also dip into the shoujo genre.

Now if you were to post, which one is producing the best quality? (that is, using the best paper, not given to too much ink, or even talking about how one does something specific (like translation of the sound effects) You might have something there. But comparing for titles? I only took what you put into context and clearly showed how it was flawed.

And by the way... welcome to the forums.


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