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WeebRunningWild
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I have watched marginal service and I was baffled by it being in the awards. If you like aliens, sci-fi and buddy cop shows then you'll enjoy it, its a 6* at best. The buddy cop elements are what kept me watching.
Also can we talk about how snubbed shoujo is in crunchy awards (how was fruits basket not nominated for aoty last year). Though this year was probably the best for shoujo (a grand total of 2), but they lost to horimiya. I think the problem is that most people just watch the same shounen jump shows and don't branch out and watch other stuff. I think sequels should be kept to the 'continuing series award' (or at least not be in aoty) and they add a 'write your own nomination' |
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Glordit
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I'd imagine that, a majority of the people voting are probably casual watchers and will watch whatever is popular, the big title of the season type of show or, shows which are recommended by their peers. Which ends up being popular and/or big titles. Just browser /r/anime for a few days and you'll notice patterns develop in how they recommend the same shows over and over again or give the same answers to questions which have been answered 100-fold already. |
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catterbu
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Really happy the r/anime awards were mentioned! They were pivotal to introducing me to less seen anime when I first started watching several years ago. Like was mentioned in the article, it starts with diverse nominees. Also, the jury has to go through a true application process, are supposed to watch every entry in their categories, then participate in jury discussions. While community is nearly 10 million total, certainly anything juried is going to come up with some peculiarites. Plus, one could argue that those who care about anime enough to go to r/anime, probably watch a bit more than those who vote in Crunchyroll's "awards". Finally, I do not think the article mentioned it, but the other issue is that Crunchyroll does not just allow, but encourages repeated voting. So it is possible that JJK, Chainsaw Man, and Demon Slayer might not have even won so many categories if they simply limited it to one vote per person. They seem to be trying to make their awards show meaningless actively.
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Angel M Cazares
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They should limit the big hit shounen titles to 3-4 categories. It makes sense to nominate them for Anime of the Year because of their popularity, but expand that category to 8 titles. It would also would do tons of good to have more genre awards; that should spotlight more niche and obscure titles.
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Lord Geo
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"Broken"? No, the Anime Awards are working exactly as intended, i.e. it's a giant piece of self-promotion, while the winners are looked at by the industry in Japan to determine what should be made more of in the coming years. It is absolutely nothing more than the industry taking advantage of the consumers in order to sell them more of what they want in the future. That's why is still takes viewers' votes into consideration, in the first place.
The r/anime Awards are more diverse & take both fans & judges into consideration, sure, but its categories aren't really all that different from the Anime Awards, in the long run. There is so much more to the anime industry than just streaming what's new & current, and both of these shows fail in acknowledging this. Where's a category like "Best Physical Release?" for the different major regions (America, Europe, Japan)? CR would never do this, but it's surprising that r/anime hasn't tried it out yet. How about "Best New Catalog Addition" for older titles that only recently got added to streaming? Crunchyroll has recently been adding that kind of stuff, but have done diddly squat to actually promote them, so what's even the point? Again, r/anime could easily do this, but apparently won't. Hell, can we get a damn "Honorary/Legacy Award" to honor & celebrate icons in the industry, both in Japan & abroad? Even the Game Awards at least did it for a few years early on! Admittedly, this is something that only the Anime Awards could really get away with in a "proper" fashion, but it just showcases how vapid & advertising-focused all of it really is. |
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Joe Mello
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I do think most of it is "We Demand To Be Taken Seriously," since anime as a Global Brand(TM) isn't even 30 years old by most standards and its reach is dwarfed by nearly anything else with an awards show.
But every critique of CR's awards could be said of every award show. The problems are universal and they go back to the fact that they're effectively management holding black-tie pizza parties for labor. |
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davecabrera
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I'm dusting off this ancient account (I haven't been a columnist for years; that's just probably the last time I used this account) because I watched The Marginal Service and I want to assure the writers that it was not good enough to be on any best-of lists. A lot of cool ideas, it's frequently funny, there are even a couple of strong episodes in there, but nothing comes together at all, especially not at the end.
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malvarez1
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Marginal Service was the wrong show to bring up, IMO
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db999
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The fact of the matter is as much as these awards shows want the legitimacy of the Academy Awards or the Emmy’s that’s not what these awards are. The Crunchyroll Anime Awards are really the anime equivalent of the MTV Movie Awards, or the Kids Choice Awards. That’s essentially what this awards show is.
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Greed1914
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I'm not sure how you go about changing things in a way that will work to avoid this while doing it in a way that doesn't feel at least somewhat arbitrary or bloat the show into something that gets out of hand.
You could have enough genre-specific categories to where the big hits of the year simply can't be nominated for such a large percentage of the categories, but you then lead into the arguments of whether nominees "fit" the genre. And 32 categories is already kind of a lot, so it's easy for people to just default to whether they have seen something on the list, and not whether it did a particularly good job of something. You could also cap how many total nominations something can get, but then you run the risk of snubbing a show that deserves a nomination just because it happened to excel in multiple areas. Moving sequel seasons to their own category may make room for new titles, but there isn't much example of that in other award shows. Movie sequels don't tend to get nominated for big categories because stuff that gets nominated is more likely to be a one-off by design. The Emmys will oftentimes nominate sequel seasons, but it is possible for something to simply maintain a high quality. |
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Cho_Desu
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I think it ultimately just boils down to, sometimes an award show will have interesting picks and some good variety, and sometimes it won't. I think last year's was slightly better... a lot of Attack on Titan wins of course, but anime of the year was Cyberpunk, which felt unexpected (especially since it was a Netflix anime).
Though I will note it does feel a tad surprising Jujutsu took so much glory for this year, when it seemed to be a series that had a great deal of criticism and controversy as it aired. Perhaps a case of general audiences not noticing the sorts of issues that cause a stir on social media. |
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Saeryen
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We. Need. More. Shoujo. In. This. Awards. Show.
I didn't see either of this column's writers even mention Sacrificial Princess and the King of Beasts, which deserved nominations for Best Fantasy and Best Romance and got absolutely none. Also, Horimiya: The Missing Pieces was fun and cute but My Happy Marriage really should have won Best Romance. In fact, there should just be a rule that for every shounen/seinen title nominated, a shoujo/josei title should be too. That's the only way we'll have any kind of fairness. |
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MarshalBanana
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I really don't know how it can work in a way that pleases everyone. You either have this type of voting, where a majority of the voters are younger fans, who just vote for the most widely viewed shows of the year. Or you gather a group of fans who have more exposure to the media outside the big action titles and the year's biggest hit, and have winners who a large group of fans is going to look at and say "Never heard of them, where is My Hero Academia?".
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Saeryen
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Hopefully they'd be encouraged to check out other titles. |
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cutslo
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The problem is not the result, the problem is that none of it is in any way interesting or worth talking about (edit: Apart from Buddy Daddies coming out of nowhere, but given that barely anyone even cares about that show, it mostly seems random). The Reddit awards certainly had outcomes that I disagree with, but at least they were worth skimming for the novelty. |
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