Forum - View topicNEWS: Netflix to Stream Studio Ghibli Films Globally Except in U.S., Canada, Japan
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Canadians are literally the only ones who deserve to be angry about this if they’re not getting HBO Max. But US fans have known about the HBO Max deal for months now so I don’t know what people are shocked about. And the amount of misinformation people keep spreading on social media is baffling to me when you can Google all this information easily.
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Chrono1000
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I would say that it is a railroad robber baron situation where several Hollywood studios have far too much power over the media industry. Instead of having hundreds of competing media companies where exclusive streaming contracts would be very detrimental we have an oligarchy of Hollywood studios that offer exclusive content on their own streaming platforms. There was a brief window where Netflix could buy what they wanted since the Hollywood studios didn't care but steaming has gradually turned into the cable TV model which has been updated for the 21st century. |
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Nodz
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Very good news!!!
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jdnation
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Those complaining about streaming exclusivity have to consider that it's either multiple outlets competing which makes sub prices more competitive, or more larger monopolies which is convenient but prices are set at whatever they can get away with. There is no utopian system, there are always pros and cons.
Frankly the current state of affairs is the most affordable it has ever been, especially with the choice to freely sub for just a month of unlimited viewing. One can check out entire completed seasons of multiple shows that way. Then switch. This is only an issue for those who absolutely must watch everything every week from everyone. Heck if you have friends and family, people just share accounts or head over to each others place and log in. As for old Ghibli stuff, if you really need to remain subbed to watch their films anytime, it's cheaper and simpler to just buy your favorites on blu ray. Especially if you're in the 3 omitted countries listed. |
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Agent355
Posts: 5113 Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready... |
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I haven’t seen most of them...and I’m probably not getting HBO unless I could split it with friends... Question: can an American visiting Europe or Mexico log into their American Netflix account and get access to the catalogue of their physical location? |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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No, this is not a capitalism problem. This is an issue of everyone creating their own service to try and kill off Netflix. I wouldn't be surprised that once Netflix is gone, all the other streaming services will go too, because the intended kill target would be gone. NONE of the media companies has ever liked the existence of Netflix. Media companies have traditionally hated forms of media distribution that they couldn't control. They tried to stop the VHS tape, they made it difficult for Blockbuster to exist (It never made a profit, except for a couple years), and now they're after NetFlix. |
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Tempest
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Yes. Netflix content is based on your physical location (determined by your IP address). So when you are traveling, you get access to the content from the country you are visiting (and lose access to the content not available on that country). Interestingly, Amazon Prime bases everything off your home/credit card address. So while traveling, your content doesn't change. |
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Fenrin
Posts: 703 Location: SoCal |
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There's a simple solution to this, VPN. Just get a VPN for a couple bucks a month and change your location to a country of your choice and then you can browse that country's Netflix content. Easy.
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DavetheUsher
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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. TV tried forever to compete with YouTube for years, going so far as to even give YouTubers their own shows and movies on their network to try to get their fandom watching. Didn't really work. Then they eventually realized they could just pay to have YouTube promote their own channels and videos. So now pretty much all the front page trending stuff is segments from late night talk shows and big networks and looks no different than your DirectTV or Xfinity splash screen. You can even rent/buy movies and shows on YouTube.
Series like The Office and Friends saw huge success on Netflix. It introduced those shows to a new generation and widespread popularity on the internet. The networks who own those shows freaked out and panicked upon realizing they weren't the ones making money out of it. So they scooped the license back from Netflix as soon as they could and are now shoving them on their own upcoming streaming services. Same thing when Disney pulled it's catalog and the upcoming Marvel stuff. Of course, the problem is nobody new is going to stumble upon those shows now since those services are more niche and specifically for people who want NBC's or HBO's catalog. So they're never going to see another explosion in resurgence again like they did on Netflix. Kinda a paradox. The only people who's going to watch those shows now are the people who are already fans. Everything's getting fragmented again so we'll likely see less and less of older shows blowing up thanks to newfound exposure. But hey, Netflix is getting Seinfeld at least. The streaming wars are only going to get bigger and uglier. |
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Kadmos1
Posts: 13597 Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP |
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Wish Ghibli allowed AT&T to put this on what are arguably the best anime streaming services of any AT&T-owned company: VRV and/or Crunchyroll.
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Pepperidge
Posts: 1106 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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In regards to the possibility of the films streaming on Crave in Canada:
https://twitter.com/CarttCa/status/1219685861085806594 "I asked. Their deal with Warner is for HBO Max original content only. So Studio Ghibli would fall outside of that and no, Bell doesn't have the rights to that content." |
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Jose Cruz
Posts: 1796 Location: South America |
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It actually does. Back in 2018 I was in the US and had Amazon on that address, I couldn't access some shows I was watching when I left the US. |
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Zalis116
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I certainly hope somebody works something out for Canada, as it would be equal parts shameful and silly if only they were left out of newly-streamable Ghibli content.
Pirates are not consumers, strictly speaking; in economic terms, consumers are those who pay for products and services, not simply "any entity that consumes anything." "Just get it for free" is not a valid consumer response to issues with prices or services. Imagine if any other market or business were looked at this way: "No, I wasn't shoplifting, I was just being more fiscally responsible. All I was doing was trying to outdo the store and circumvent their decision to make people pay for stuff. I can't believe they tried to install anti-theft scanners to override me and my choices. So anti-consumer! That's just the market at work." If we have a situation where so-called "consumers" can just indulge in whatever they want and only pay if they feel like it, then we no longer have a market -- we have economic anarchy. On a technical level, watching an illegal stream is no different from downloading a file via torrents and such and then deleting it afterwards, as streaming a video downloads a temporary copy to one's cache. Back around 15-20 years ago, those who were dissatisfied with cable packages and pricing said, "We don't want these expensive, one-size-fits-all deals. Let us pay a la carte to get the content we want." Now that the market has responded by offering those a la carte options (still at a cheaper price than oldschool cable, even with many subscriptions combined), the response is, "We don't want to pay all these multiple subscriptions. Give us everything in one subscription, except make it less than 10% of what cable used to cost, on our own on-demand schedule instead of linear TV schedules, with no commercials, mindblowing innovative interface/recommendation features, and a constant supply of new content with lavish sets/costumes/effects, brilliant writing, and all in HD/4K." I mean at some point, something's got to give. Seems to me like it's the "consumers" who've gotten too greedy and are demanding too much for too little. As jdnation points out, the current landscape, whether in anime or mainstream/Western entertainment, is far more affordable than it was in the past. There may some bumps in the road, but the overall slope in costs is an unmistakable descent. |
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LegitPancake
Posts: 1308 Location: Texas, USA |
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That's certainly concerning. If Bell doesn't have the rights, why couldn't Netflix gave gotten it for Canada? Or is Warner just gonna sit on CA rights and not offer legal access? That would basically make them the only country in the world that wouldn't be able to stream Ghibli (unless countries that don't have Netflix like China are in a similar situation). |
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Primus
Posts: 2802 Location: Toronto |
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GKIDS are behind the HBO Max deal. The Wild Bunch are behind the international Netflix sale. GKIDS likely has the Canadian Ghibli SVOD rights, but because Netflix wasn't dealing with them, they were never on the table. I'm not sure how often Netflix makes individual content agreements for a market as "small" as Canada. They stream other GKIDS material, so it's not impossible those get bundled in a future deal, but still. |
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