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garry
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Joined: 12 Jan 2002
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:57 am Reply with quote
I watched Wings of Honneamise tonight for the first time in too long. I remember being a freshman in high school and renting it from the local mom and pop video store. I remember it was sandwiched between the copies of Black Magic M-66 and Riding Bean that every mom and pop video store seemed to have back in the day.

Damn, but this is fine movie. It must have been something about the 1980's, because there are precious few anime movies with the same sense of scale. Ghost in the Shell had a bigger budget, more commercial viability, and about three percent of the ambition. Even Venus Wars musters more excitement. Every other movie these days not done by Satoshi Kon smells like a two hour commercial for a TV show or computer game. If they didn't have Dilandau or the Sakura Wars girls, would you watch them? (I know I haven't mentioned Jin Roh. I don't know how to. It's five AM and I'm a bad writer. Nyah.)

But this isn't a new thing. This hobby's always been about overnanalizing toy commercials, kid's shows and prime-time sitcoms. There's nothing inherently bad about them, I like Tenchi just as much as you do. I just miss the taste of something more after a while.
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tomcat



Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:46 am Reply with quote
Yeah it would be great if to see more anime of that high a quality, but thats not the way our collective societys work; you have to have the commerical side of anime there to support the more humane. Believe it or not Honneamise has a heck of a thoughtful story in there as well as some of the best action ever. And the animation is of the highest order.
I recommend that you get a copy of The Anime Encyclopedia and take it with you when you hit your anime stores and just buy only the very best for as long you stand, and then and only then you'll be ready to laugh at the silly day-to-day anime that is the majority of the marketplace.
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Kagato



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:55 am Reply with quote
I liked Honneamise,but it was a little slow paced.I got the dub at a video store for $5.00.I lost mine somewhere in my room about 3 months ago.
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Joshu



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:35 am Reply with quote
yes,honneamise is indeed a very fine movie which deserved 2 be among the elites.there r not much anime of such fine qualities during the 80s considering that gainex almost collapse after producing it.
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ShellBullet



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Honneamise is a truly great movie. It's rare that any anime comes out of that high quality. You just can't expect something like that to come out all the time.
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eva05
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:53 am Reply with quote
Yeah this was a classic.

I still remember my first copy of this was taped for me by a buddy of a buddy whow as stationed over there. I had barely learned any Japanese at the time and it had no subtitles.

About a year later I managed to track down a subbed version and was wowed even more.

j
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Syker 07



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:05 am Reply with quote
Yes, Honneamise is a masterpiece.

You sin against your hobby if you buy the DVD, though. It has the most awful video transfer I've ever seen. That is, unless it's been fixed and re-released, I don't know.

Just a little forewarning. If the above fix and rerelease hasn't occured, buy the VHS. Period.
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Joshu



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:11 am Reply with quote
i remembered i bought a bootleg a few years back & i threw it away after watching it.is not that i'm rich or what but the quality is really aweful & somemore without any subtities & japanese audio.what kind of bootleg this is? even worse than my vhs copy.
by the way i'm thinking of getting the legalised copy.can fans out there provide any information about the quality of the dvd version, any help will be appreciated. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:59 am Reply with quote
Syker 07 wrote:

You sin against your hobby if you buy the DVD, though. It has the most awful video transfer I've ever seen.


Japanese version is pretty styling.

j
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Syker 07



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:02 pm Reply with quote
I'd imagine the R2 release is a lot better.

But, unless its got English subs, I won't be getting it. I don't understand a bit of Japanese, and I don't care to read along with a script.

It it has subs, though. I'll deffinately look into it.
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mrgazpacho



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:48 am Reply with quote
Yeah it has subs Smile
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Syker 07



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:22 am Reply with quote
*Adds entry to Christmas list* Eeeexcellent [/Burns]

Syker Seven
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Sword of Whedon



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:10 am Reply with quote
The Japanese Honneamise does not have subtitles.
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Steve Berry



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:25 pm Reply with quote
I know this is going to sound like sacrilege here, but.... I watched Honneamise, and thought it was just o.k. It was really quite slow, and never built to a climax that I found emotionally moving-- the characters were all so distant. I know something like Macross Plus is almost fluff in comparison, but atleast it's engaging romantic/robot fluff. The characters interact, have conflict, and build to a resolution as they change. So much is static in Honneamise.

Also, where was the real risk?? Where was the characters feeling like they had something to lose?? I never really doubted that they were going to be successful in the flight in the end, and that made it less enjoyable.

I dunno. It's not bad, but it's not one I show to newbies. Slow enough that my wife got up and kept herself busy around the house for a while, poking her head in now and then to see if anything changed. I had to pretty much agree with her in the end, despite engaging parts here and there.
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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:23 am Reply with quote
Steve Berry wrote:
I know this is going to sound like sacrilege here, but.... I watched Honneamise, and thought it was just o.k. It was really quite slow, and never built to a climax that I found emotionally moving-- the characters were all so distant. I know something like Macross Plus is almost fluff in comparison, but atleast it's engaging romantic/robot fluff. The characters interact, have conflict, and build to a resolution as they change. So much is static in Honneamise.

Also, where was the real risk?? Where was the characters feeling like they had something to lose?? I never really doubted that they were going to be successful in the flight in the end, and that made it less enjoyable.

I dunno. It's not bad, but it's not one I show to newbies. Slow enough that my wife got up and kept herself busy around the house for a while, poking her head in now and then to see if anything changed. I had to pretty much agree with her in the end, despite engaging parts here and there.


Perhaps the only risk was spoiler[that they had no way to bring him back after launch. It was a suicide mission.]
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