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The State of Isekai Anime




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Eilavel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:29 am Reply with quote
Interesting analysis; there is clearly a strong core audience that makes these sorts of works very sustainable and so we can expect considerable output for quite some time. Its probably the headline clarity of what to expect that pushes the scores up; few people who aren't already fans, to some degree, of the deployed tropes are checking out the 20th best isekai anime of the year.

The Isekai element is clearly important for some of the works (transformation and villainess works, for example, usually heavily emphasise the previous worlds knowledge). However, I still think some other term (perhaps Naro-kei) represents the more "standard" fantasy output.

I note, for example, the inclusion of Notorious Talker here which (happy to be corrected as didn't watch) I don't understand is actually an Isekai- its just a fantasy anime employing the same kind of RPG derived tropes (even if that example is wrong, theres a lot of similar such works and I suspect they would show a fairly similar pattern to "Isekai" material). While Isekai can be a central conceit, in others its downplayed to irrelevance almost immediately.


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malvarez1



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:31 am Reply with quote
I have nothing against Isekai myself, but I know this article is gonna upset some people with the implication that the genre isn’t going anywhere.
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WoodDude



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:40 am Reply with quote
malvarez1 wrote:
I have nothing against Isekai myself, but I know this article is gonna upset some people with the implication that the genre isn’t going anywhere.


Not me. I'm a huge fan so I hope it doesn't go anywhere as well. And it looks like most other anime fans like it as well. Glad to see us in a 'peak' of isekai.
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Saeryen



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am Reply with quote
One of the best isekai is Kakuriyo: Bed and Breakfast for Spirits and I hate how overlooked it is. As happy as I am about the rise of otome isekai, I really think Kakuriyo deserves better and am glad it’s getting another season, hopefully the anime community will notice it more.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:12 am Reply with quote
Looks like somebody saw my post criticizing the isekai fandom from the This Week in Anime article last week (along with the unintentional soapboxing) and did the demographic report and the whatever we're seeing in the article. Anyway, this is very informative, and there's one part of the article that caught my attention:

Miles wrote:
While this concept is found in folklore from around the world, the genre's roots in popular fiction like Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court lay a common groundwork for how isekai is approached today. While there are still some Western works of fiction that would reasonably be considered isekai, over the last 30 years, isekai has become a staple of anime, manga, and novels from Japan. Until recently, almost all of its growth has come from the popularity of media from that country.


See, both titles are still considered isekai even before the term isekai existed, so those isekai anime fans can't denied this.

Oh, and I got to give Miles (the writer who wrote this write-up) a big plus for including this:

Miles wrote:
The mastermind behind Mobile Suit Gundam, Yoshiyuki Tomino, released the great Aura Battler Dunbine in 1983. It's considered the first isekai anime by many due to its commonalities with the genre today, despite a handful of contenders for that designation with earlier release dates, including an anime adaptation of the Wizard of Oz that hit cinemas the year prior. The 49 (thoroughly excellent) episodes of Dunbine locked in many of the tropes that would become most commonly associated with isekai going forward and served as an inspiration for many of its successors in the genre.

Popular anime like The Vision of Escaflowne, Magic Knight Rayearth, Digimon, and .hack//SIGN are all clear examples of “in another world” stories released in the years between Aura Battler Dunbine and the modern era of isekai. While they may have been described with the term in Japan and occasionally compared to one another, the term was not used as a category until the Japanese web novel platform Shōsetsuka ni Narō grew an audience in the late 00s in parallel with one of its more popular subjects for fanfiction, The Familiar of Zero.


Just one correction: are you referring to this Wizard of Oz film right here, and not the 1986 TV series, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. Because I think you put in the wrong link in the write-up, I mean I can understand the confusion between the 2 different versions.

Also thank you for mentioning these pre-SAO isekai anime titles!!! About Aura Battler Dunbine, that anime has been dangerously ignored by today's isekai anime fans despite it's importance and relevance in isekai anime history. I wish more and more isekai fans would give these old-school pre-SAO isekai anime titles the same love they would give to SAO, and any recent isekai titles that came out in recent years. Again, thank you for giving Dunbine, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yugi, and Rayearth the mention they deserved. I really wish this fandom would give them the love they deserve and somebody tell the SAO fandom to tell their fandom to stop attacking the .Hack franchise.

Again, I really like this article, and thank you for writing this up.
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Otaku-sempai



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am Reply with quote
I'm going to go out on a limb and state that 90% of isekai is crud, on the basis on Sturgeon's Law: "Ninety percent of anything is crud." That seems to be backed up by a lot of the recent releases I've seen promoted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:35 am Reply with quote
Only want to point out one thing

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Otome games are visual novels or otherwise story-driven games with a female target audience that focus on romance, often with a reverse-harem framing or opportunities to enjoy handsome gentlemen interacting with one another. In many, a villainess character is prominent: she is your primary adversary, your rival in love.


I actually don't think this is that common, but because so many otome isekai use this concept, people who don't play otome games think it is. It's more like they all got the idea from the classic otome-ge Angelique which did have a villainess and became very influential. Thus becoming the basis for so many webnovels using the concept today.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:39 am Reply with quote
Tomino sure is always ahead of his time. Imagine writing a character like Kamille nowdays who suffers from gender insecurities, has insane parenting issues and calls himself autistic. Zeta Gundam might be peak 80s. Still, Turn A Gundam was too different from previous Gundam works. More calm, more pacifist, more androgynous protagonist, etc. Loran's time on Earth as he is alone discovering an ancient "Gundam" better known as white doll while becoming part of several relationships feels like a mecha isekai. Then again Escaflowne might have done it before more deliberately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:39 am Reply with quote
Wow, that is a super impressive analysis... the kind of article the phrase "deep dive" was meant for. Thank you, Miles Thomas Atherton. When I first got into anime in a big way back in early 2009, the "cancer" on anime was moe. Some people felt there was just too much of it. Back then, none of us had any idea of what "genre saturation" would REALLY look like.
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TheReticent



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:04 am Reply with quote
That was quite the analysis! As an analytical person, I love reading these kinds of articles.

In the preview guide comments, I had asked how these endless isekai series made any money for the studios, but looks like the answer here is that they're 'good enough' to be a net profit. Why try for the homerun when you can simply always get a base hit? Consistency is what matters, I guess. And you know what, I consistently watch a few every season, so there you go.
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AniMangaNime



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:08 am Reply with quote
This type of analysis article has been my favorite things from ANN, it's just so fascinating to see all data being compiled and extract any kind of statement from it, honestly, all kind of viewership data, sales chart are stealing my attention, always been huge fan of it, hope this kind of analysis article can stay and have more to come in future!!! Big thanks to writer for the research.

PS : I heard Netflix Engagement for the second half of 2025 will be out on February 2025, so we will be waiting for you analysis on anime part.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:14 am Reply with quote
Oh, and I like to add to this info and it's possible the author of this article forgot this: beside Aura Battler Dunbine, and the 1981 Wizard of Oz anime film. There was also Super Dimension Century Orguss which is by today's definition is an isekai anime. If you think I'm making this up, you can watch the 1st episode on Youtube courtesy of TMS's YT channel. The 1st episode shows the MC being teleported to another world, a characteristic of isekai.

Orguss came out during the same year as (but came out a few months after) Aura Battler Dunbine. So I thought I would like to point this out that 1983 is the year of 2 very important isekai anime titles that would be a big influence on today's isekai genre.

Blood- wrote:
When I first got into anime in a big way back in early 2009, the "cancer" on anime was moe. Some people felt there was just too much of it. Back then, none of us had any idea of what "genre saturation" would REALLY look like.


Yeah, you're not alone. I thought moe would be the "cancer" that would kill the anime creativity, but turns out that would not be true. I say this as someone that used to watch ecchi, but I stopped watching it because it was getting generic, boring, and uninspired. Now that I diversify my anime genre watching habit, I don't suffer any anime exhaustion at all ever since I watched retro anime. But, I'm worried what other genre or theme would become the new "moe" or "isekai" in the near future Blood-. Could anime adaptation of webtoon/manhwa will become the new genre or theme saturation in the near future? What about the revival of mecha anime like we saw in the 80's, could that come back?

Who knows what could become the anime industry's new genre milking in the near future.
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ANN_Lynzee
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:21 am Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
Looks like somebody saw my post criticizing the isekai fandom from the This Week in Anime article last week (along with the unintentional soapboxing) and did the demographic report and the whatever we're seeing in the article. Anyway, this is very informative, and there's one part of the article that caught my attention:


This article was in the works long before new year. These sort of articles require a ton of work and can't be created in a week.
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:24 am Reply with quote
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
mdo7 wrote:
Looks like somebody saw my post criticizing the isekai fandom from the This Week in Anime article last week (along with the unintentional soapboxing) and did the demographic report and the whatever we're seeing in the article. Anyway, this is very informative, and there's one part of the article that caught my attention:


This article was in the works long before new year. These sort of articles require a ton of work and can't be created in a week.


Yeah I know, I was making a joke, I forgot to add the Laughing as an indicator. Sorry about the confusion there Lynzee.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:28 am Reply with quote
No problem, glad you enjoyed reading it!
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