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EighteenSky
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:24 pm
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Glad to see the Grand Magic Games tournament from Fairy Tail on here. It took a traditional tournament and ripped it up with some really inventive bouts instead of just generic fighting that so many series do. Even the normal fights were fab as expected coming from Mashima. Easily one of the best arcs in the series for me.
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Animechic420
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:38 pm
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Oh, man. The poll for coolest opening sequence is a tough one. I don't know which three to choose from. 
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Aura Ichadora
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:09 pm
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Not surprised the Hunter Exams are at the top of the list. I'm watching the series as it premiers on Toonami, and it is rather intense. Although I can only guess it'll become more so as we enter the final phases.
For the poll, I went with the OPs for Michiko and Hatchin, Samurai Champloo, and wrote in Witch Hunter Robin. I really like all three of those about equal for animation and song, although I guess if I were to choose one over the others I'd probably have to go with WHR. Shell is definitely a song I'd put on repeat for a day or so and never get tired of it.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:40 pm
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| Eddy564 wrote: | | So are we gonna act like the Chunin Exams wasn't an amazing arc? And an exclusion of the Dark Tournament in YYH is an absolute travesty. Otherwise decent list I guess. |
It was "amazing" only in that Kishimoto literally ripped it off wholesale from Togashi's Hunter Exam. I watched the latter series after the former, and almost every episode left me thinking, "Dear lord Kishimoto you really didn't have an original thought in your head, did you?" I will agree with you on the exclusion of Yu Yu Hakusho: I've never seen it myself, but it's about the first thing I think of when someone mentions "tournament arc."
And man, I could easily pick about 9 or 10 options for that poll. As it stood I had to give the nods to Origa's mind-blowing "Rise," the eternal masterpiece "Tank!", and a bit of Lupin, because come on, that invented cool openings.
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KH91
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:48 pm
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Um...it's like you never read/watched....
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FilthyCasual
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:00 pm
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| Quote: | | Before the creators made Ash's continual losses at the tournaments a running joke |
Please don't remind me of such tragic things ;_;
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:18 pm
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| Eddy564 wrote: | | So are we gonna act like the Chunin Exams wasn't an amazing arc? |
It's was good arc......as a good tournament arc?......no.
Correct me If I'm wrong but aren't tournament arcs supposed to you know have decisive ends not be blown off in the middle of it?
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It was "amazing" only in that Kishimoto literally ripped it off wholesale from Togashi's Hunter Exam. |
Togashi must not have an original bone in his body either as Tournament arcs were a thing long before HunterXHunter hell YuYuHakusho which he also wrote had a Tournament arc.
| KH91 wrote: | | Um...it's like you never read/watched.... |
To be pretty fair the Yu-Gi-Oh anime had 3 different tournament arcs not just Battle City.
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Cutiebunny
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:38 pm
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I never thought of Ash's continual losses as a running gag. I always thought of it as his own personal progress, considering that, minus Pikachu, he replaces his team every time a new generation of Pokémon is introduced. In the Indigo League, he was...Top 16? In the current season, Ash loses in the final match, meaning that, overall, he earned second place. If anything, as Ash (usually) improves on his tournament position every arc, it shows that he and his training methods have slowly improved if he's able to turn similar low level Pokémon into strong fighters by the end of the season.
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Eddy564
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:41 pm
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| Top Gun wrote: |
| Eddy564 wrote: | | So are we gonna act like the Chunin Exams wasn't an amazing arc? And an exclusion of the Dark Tournament in YYH is an absolute travesty. Otherwise decent list I guess. |
It was "amazing" only in that Kishimoto literally ripped it off wholesale from Togashi's Hunter Exam. I watched the latter series after the former, and almost every episode left me thinking, "Dear lord Kishimoto you really didn't have an original thought in your head, did you?" I will agree with you on the exclusion of Yu Yu Hakusho: I've never seen it myself, but it's about the first thing I think of when someone mentions "tournament arc."
And man, I could easily pick about 9 or 10 options for that poll. As it stood I had to give the nods to Origa's mind-blowing "Rise," the eternal masterpiece "Tank!", and a bit of Lupin, because come on, that invented cool openings. |
The concept of tournaments wasn't developed by Togashi. It's obvious that Kishimoto did most likely use some of HxH as a sort of template, but there was enough unique moments in the Chunin exams to me that warranted it's own quality.
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Eddy564
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:47 pm
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: |
| Eddy564 wrote: | | So are we gonna act like the Chunin Exams wasn't an amazing arc? |
It's was good arc......as a good tournament arc?......no.
Correct me If I'm wrong but aren't tournament arcs supposed to you know have decisive ends not be blown off in the middle of it?
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It was "amazing" only in that Kishimoto literally ripped it off wholesale from Togashi's Hunter Exam. |
Togashi must not have an original bone in his body either as Tournament arcs were a thing long before HunterXHunter hell YuYuHakusho which he also wrote had a Tournament arc.
| KH91 wrote: | | Um...it's like you never read/watched.... |
To be pretty fair the Yu-Gi-Oh anime had 3 different tournament arcs not just Battle City. |
Well I think you are wrong because there's been a plethora of tournaments in the history of manga that have been interrupted yet are still very much tournaments. DBZ and the Grand Magic Games come to mind. So that is why I consider it a tournament arc in that sense.
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KH91
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:50 pm
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | To be pretty fair the Yu-Gi-Oh anime had 3 different tournament arcs not just Battle City. |
*looks at top 7*
Oh, look. There's Dragon Ball in the article mentioning its numerous tournaments then specifically picking one to talk about. Oh, look. There's Pokemon with its numerous tournaments being mentioned, but only one is chosen. Your point?
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Top Gun
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:50 pm
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: |
| Top Gun wrote: | |
It was "amazing" only in that Kishimoto literally ripped it off wholesale from Togashi's Hunter Exam. |
Togashi must not have an original bone in his body either as Tournament arcs were a thing long before HunterXHunter hell YuYuHakusho which he also wrote had a Tournament arc. |
I'm not talking about the general concept of a tournament arc. There are a myriad of specific details and mechanics in the Chunin exam (and indeed about the characters participating in such) that are so overwhelmingly similar to what Togashi wrote earlier as to deny any possibility of coincidence. This is something that observers of both series have pretty widely acknowledged for years now.
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SnowyLightning44
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:55 pm
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Admittedly I haven't seen a few of these but I do agree with Flame of Recca and I quite enjoyed that part of the series alot more than other anime with tournament arc
As for the poll I chose "One Day" (One Piece), "Sakamichi no Melody" (Kids on the Slope) and "Sakura Mitsutsuki" (Gintama), the last one especially because of the way they used a mainly dull coloured animation sequence so well) but there are probably a few others I could name like "Hakushu Kassai Utaawase" (Katanagatari) and "Identity" (Chivalry of a Failed Knight) that look pretty cool as well
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:28 pm
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| Eddy564 wrote: | | Well I think you are wrong because there's been a plethora of tournaments in the history of manga that have been interrupted yet are still very much tournaments. DBZ and the Grand Magic Games come to mind. So that is why I consider it a tournament arc in that sense. |
DBZ didn't have any tournaments that were interrupted outside of the one that was held during the Buu arc (which continued on minus half the competitors leaving). Also my issue with the Chunnin Exam isn't calling it a Tournament Arc it's calling it a "good" Tournament arc since it ended without being finished.
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Takamachi Ryoko
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:33 pm
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The lack of YYH Dark Tournament saddens me, it was one of the strongest arcs in shounen manga history, it was great to see how the characters developed through it and it wasn't included buy Flame of Recca was? what?
Dude it this was the manga then I'd agree with its inclusion, but even the anime feels rushed and the final battle was lackluster compared to the manga, and it didn't even put a real closure to the anime.
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