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INTEREST: Manga Editor Provides Glimpse of Lolicon Magazine's Standards

Depending on the country, real child porn and not real child porn are equally illegal, if my recollection of some ANN headlines is correct.

@kai99 yeah the US is so above that stuff. It's not like the US had toddlers and tiaras or anything. Showing off real kids to be on a tv show.

Point being the US isn't above using kids for money.

anyway again im not a psychologist, and i don't have the resources on hand, but there have been circumstances in which the culture built up by these works has harmed people. understand i'm not advocating for every single character under 18 to be bundled up in a winter jacket permanently or anything, just that people shouldn't intentionally produce material that glorifies life-ruining crime. remember that Japan is a different cultural environment than the US and pedophilia is more rampant there than here.

Lol at the "free world" comments. Nope, this is simply an example of Japan being a-0K with children being sexualized. If Japan is so for "freedom" than why was the woman arrested for her vagina artwork? It aint hurting anyone.

In Japan you have the freedom to buy softcore child porn.

In Japan, you once had the freedom to have real child porn and it wasn't until recently they made it illegal( with pressure from those darn western countries).

In some countries, you have the freedom to marry a child.

See the problem with the whole "freedom" argument. If it goes along with what is okay as far as morals go, it is allowed. How Americans view Gun Ownership is different from how places like Japan and much of Europe( much of the world) view it. Western society does not view child sexualization in a positive light, and things like lolicon is banned in some places and there have been people arrested for it here in the US. You wont see a magazine targeted at Lolicons made here in the US because they know the kind of shit storm that company will have if they do that. You also wont see real softcore child porn being sold in the US like it is in Japan.

Japanese consumers have that freedom. But they don't have the freedom of gun ownership like here in the US. That woman would not be arrested here for that vagina artwork in the US. Who is more free?

I've addressed Toddlers and Tiaras before. You can say a lot about that show, but you can not say it is made FOR pedophiles. The people who can enter that event are parents of the competitors, and the fans of the little girls tend to be other little girls. Unlike elementary school idols who are made FOR pedos in Japan. animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-10-01/elementary-idol-group-girlfriend-producer-bans-fan-from-future-events-after-incident/.79383
And I didn't say US is above using kids for money.

The people who can enter that event are parents of the competitors

Kai99 wrote:

I've addressed Toddlers and Tiaras before. You can say a lot about that show, but you can not say it is made FOR pedophiles. The people who can enter that event are parents of the competitors, and the fans of the little girls tend to be other little girls. Unlike elementary school idols who are made FOR pedos in Japan. animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-10-01/elementary-idol-group-girlfriend-producer-bans-fan-from-future-events-after-incident/.79383 And I didn't say US is above using kids for money.

You really seem to be grasping here. When Japan makes something risque involving children it's for pedophiles. When the US makes something risque involving children, it's not for pedophiles. Double standards much?

That.... doesn't seem possible in the slightest, legally speaking.
You do realize you're talking about prohibiting works of fiction from including things prohibited by the law?

Kai99 wrote:

The people who can enter that event are parents of the competitors

...Considering the nature of what their kids are "competing" in, this does exceedingly little to convince me that these parents are not somewhat less than wholesome folks. I have no right to cry for it to be banned unless or until there's convincing evidence of harm, it's just that the parents being involved doesn't automatically make it less skeevy when parents have been known to do some pretty awful things to their own kids.

The only reason I talked about parents only being allowed at the events is to point out the safety measures put in place. Unlike the children idol group where these young kids meet and greet their adult male fans.

Here are a few other countries where I know it's illegal:
Australia,
Canada,
Germany,
Italy,
Netherlands,
New Zealand (Where Puni Puni Poemy was banned as a result),
Poland,
South Africa,
Sweden (only if the images are "realistic"),
The UK.

It isn't a secret that there is an industry targeted towards pedophiles in Japan.

Victual child porn(VCP), ie: animation featuring pornographic images of children, is illegal in many countries.

In the USA you will be arrested and charged, but the actually legality is debated. During the Christopher Handley case, which ANN covered at length, it was found that parts of the "Protect Act" were unconstitutional. However ultimately Handley did not go all the way in challenging the constitutionality of this, and he accepted a plea-deal and was convicted of obscenity charges over his possession of manga/doujin child porn.