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hellsing



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:18 pm Reply with quote
Im thinking of when I gain lots of experience in anime, and I learn japanese iImight work with some of my friends to produce or direct anime.

Is there any tips you guy's or girls could help me with to be successful with my friends?

Sorry if this question isn't appropriate here. Embarassed
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LordShishio



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:19 pm Reply with quote
I don't think it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:21 pm Reply with quote
If you're thinking of actually moving to Japan, you're just about out of luck. Japan's one of the hardest countries to get a citizenship in, and it's even harder for a foreigner to find work.
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LordShishio



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:24 pm Reply with quote
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If you're thinking of actually moving to Japan, you're just about out of luck. Japan's one of the hardest countries to get a citizenship in, and it's even harder for a foreigner to find work.


Yah, and most of them are mean i've vacationed in Japan and everyone glared at me. Then again the only words i knew in Japanese were Hello, Goodbye, and bastard.
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space clam



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:24 pm Reply with quote
Appropriate or not, you should start by looking at what you want to be doing. (Animation, production, running a company) If you're a freshmen or below, great. If not, things get more difficult. Assuming you're in school, take as many applicable classes as you can. (Art, Film, Japanese, etc.) Continue your studies at college where you can focus more on the specifics of what you want to do. Hard work is the basis of success; who knows, you might be the next David Williams. (maybe minus the panties)
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hellsing



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:28 pm Reply with quote
[quote="space clam"]Appropriate or not, you should start by looking at what you want to be doing. (Animation, production, running a company) If you're a freshmen or below, great.


Im a sophmore in high school Im thinking of majoring in computer and digital animation but I really want to make animes.

Is there another course i should take? Confused

Or is that the course to take?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:06 pm Reply with quote
1) You will never NEVER _NEVER_ become a citizen of Japan. The Japanese government doesn't want gaijin to become permanent residents, unless they're sports athletes/etc. They grumble enough as it is, when gaijin marry natives and decide to stay in Japan. If you want to stay there for longer than the time that you're working there, you have to be admitted as an exception to the rules.

2) You will never NEVER _NEVER_ want to work in the animation field in Japan. The pay is low, the hours are lousy, and you will never work on something YOU want to work on. If you want to be an animator, stay in the states. Pay is higher, benefits are bigger, and you actually have a chance of being promoted to a point where you might actually be able to work with your own ideas.
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Gekigangar3



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:13 pm Reply with quote
It would be cool to work in anime in Japan, but for almost everyone it's an impossible dream. The first is that as said above Japan is one of the hardest countries to get citizenship in. Another is that to work in anime, you would either have to start your own studio which would cost tons of money, and if that wasn't your cup of tea then you would need to get a job at a pre-existing animation studio.

You would probablly need to know a lot of japanese, and you're at an age where it starts getting extremely hard to become well versed in a lanquage, also Japanese is one of the more diffictult lanquages in the world, so i've heard.. This isn't to say that you couldn't become fluent in japanese, but it would take alot of time and dedication, and many classes. This would make it hard for you to concentrate on becoming a great animator because you would be studying japanese constantly, and it would be hard to split up your time between the lanquage and animation.

I'm an 8th grader and like many fans of anime have aspired at moving to japan and working in anime or manga, but you just have to realize that there is a good chance that unless you give about 200% to japanese, and animation classes won't be able to move there. Sorry for the rant.

~Gekigangar
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gnollman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:32 am Reply with quote
Bah... Japanese isn't hard to speak. It is painfully hard to read and write, though....


The difficulty involved in getting a work visa in Japan really depends on what job you're interested in. My friend works there in the IT/Programming field, and I myself almost got one. Would have too, if the company hadn't restructured and the new boss killed my project for personal reasons.... bastard. Still a bit sore about that one....


Getting citizenship is another story, however.... basically, forget about it. Best you can do is a kind of permanent resident status, but you still won't be able to vote or anything like that.
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azzmoneky



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:36 am Reply with quote
it would be cool to live and work in japan
one way to go a live in japan is to join the army of one of its branches and get station at a US miltary base in japan you be there for several years prob would have a better chance if u spoke some japanese
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:58 am Reply with quote
A better deal than joining the Army is teaching. Native English teachers show up in anime because they do exist. Beyond that, as Blood shows us, American bases have American support personal from the US, including teachers. I know folks that have traveled the world via teaching.
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Burner



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:00 am Reply with quote
My bro is teaching english in china, its not that far off. Laughing
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Iron Chef



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:31 am Reply with quote
Yeah, man, if you want to work in Japan, think about going as an English teacher. According to this website, there is still a huge need/want for native English speakers to teach there. The JET Programme sounds exceedingly interesting.

As for me, I'll meet you over there if and when I can get into culinary school in Tokyo.
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Arkard



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:07 am Reply with quote
OK

first thing you need to do. Get a japanese girlfriend. I already did (god she is gorgeous Smile) and then marry her (we are already ingage). Then you will have the citizenship Razz

It probably would help you to learn japanese Wink

Also - you need to do some physical work. I went to meet my gf parents and they helped me find some work in the docks. I carried crates, helped with other things etc. I actually earned quite a bit. And then you can get a job as an english teacher (probably this is the only profesion they let foreigners do).
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Kidotai



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:10 am Reply with quote
LordShishio wrote:
Yah, and most of them are mean i've vacationed in Japan and everyone glared at me. Then again the only words i knew in Japanese were Hello, Goodbye, and bastard.


You weren't trying to go into a sex club or love hotel, were you?

As for living their, forget it. The citizenship test is one of the hardest anywhere. Soko ga Shritai aired an episode where a guy was trying to gain citizenship from South America, and he failed the test. So many times, that his time to pass expired.

One of my bigger cousins does work as an English Teacher in Japan (and married someone from Japan), and he told me once that he could get citizenship because of family bloodlines. (dunno if he was pulling my leg or what....)

FTR, I do share a last name and blood lineage to a certain feature of Japan (Namely, i'm a distant relative of a powerful warlord family).
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