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darkhunter
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:27 am
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So far (4-21-06):
Anime: 2186 (45.9%)
Pretty much 50/50 1706 (35.8%)
Manga 867 (18.2%)
Do you feel that there are a lot more anime fan than manga fan? Why do you think English fan shy away from manga or feel like manga isn't for them? (I think a lot of American lean more towards movies and DVD as entertainment than reading). Finally why do more people in Japan prefer manga over anime?
There's simply a lot of incredible manga that will never get properly animated or even animated at all. But manga is still relatively new in the states, the boom just started in 2003.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:19 pm
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Well it's possible that people are exposed to anime well before they're exposed to the manga, if they even read the manga. Manga is usually longer, and with prices at the Mt. Rushmore height that they're at right now, not too many people are reading them as of now.
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GoodLuckSaturday
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:47 pm
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darkhunter wrote: | There's simply a lot of incredible manga that will never get properly animated or even animated at all. But manga is still relatively new in the states, the boom just started in 2003. |
This is what I would attribute it to. If manga can settle itself into a long-term market, it should continue to get more and more fans. If anime is the gateway to manga in America, then it's going to take some big manga that haven't been or may never be animated to really get things rolling for manga. I only hope the word of mouth on Death Note doesn't prove to be an exception, and can help build pedigree towards manga only titles.
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jaybug39
Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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Location: Oregon, Is it FOOTBALL yet?
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:27 pm
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Fighterholic wrote:
Quote: | and with prices at the Mt. Rushmore height that they're at right now, not too many people are reading them as of now. |
I agree with that. It is what kept me from risking my hard earned dollars on buying my first manga. That and did I really want to start a series at issue 13? Would I have a clue as to what was going on?
Mayhaps is American manga start coming out as they do in Japan, or as comics come out in the UK, then maybe manga will really boom. I mean BOOM!
Or another theory is that manga will have to sell to adults who earn a living. I say this as they are the millions of people needed to generate the cash flows necessary to make manga go. Someone who won't blink too hard when purchasing a half dozen at @$10.00 a pop, plus tax. Especially with gas prices going up they way they are now, a lot of "entertainment" is going to be deemd too much of a luxury. So maybe kids will have to use thier allowances, as the adults are putting it all in the tank. Maybe.
Reading is hard. You have to use your brain. Watching is easy, they even tell you what to see, so your brain doesn't have to make a picture.
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HitokiriShadow
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:48 pm
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[quote="fighterholic"]Manga is usually longer, and with prices at the Mt. Rushmore height that they're at right now, not too many people are reading them as of now.]/quote]
You think the prices are high right now? The average price is $10 per volume with a few more expensive (mainly DH's adult titles) and many are cheaper (Shonen Jump and Shoujo Beat titles). Manga may often be longer than anime, but unless the the manga dwarfs the anime by a huge margin, the manga will still be cheaper.
And if people aren't reading manga, how are we getting manga titles hitting the 30s and 40s in the Best Seller charts? I don't recall hearing about any anime DVDs being best sellers.
I think you tend to see more anime fans on the net because anime can easily be viewed for free, either via Cartoon Network or fansubs. Manga, on the other hand, requires a bit more effort. Scanlations are far less common than fansubs and legit manga requires people to actually *gasp* go to the bookstore or libarary.
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milcor1
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:13 am
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fighterholic wrote: | Well it's possible that people are exposed to anime well before they're exposed to the manga, if they even read the manga. Manga is usually longer, and with prices at the Mt. Rushmore height that they're at right now, not too many people are reading them as of now. |
I don't know where the hell you buy your manga but if you look in the right places you can get manga at great prices, namely online websites. Dreamlandcomics.com on Ebay, Amazon, and other online sites can get you great deals with free shipping. I never ever buy my manga from bookstores anymore.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:36 am
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Well, I buy mine at a USED bookstore, and I buy it all in Japanese. There's no point to buying it in English when you can read the maiden language. Plus that way it's cheaper.
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Stefnick
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:14 pm
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There such things as used bookstores?... Anyway my mom doesn't trust buying stuff off the internet and I can't read Japanese so I'm much doomed to buy $10 english dubbed mangas at the local bookstore. Well mangas could stand to be cheaper but it doesn't stop my friends from buying it or begging their parents and it seems I can't go all day at school without seeing at least a few kids carrying one. I for one like manga more than anime. Sure anime is much more easy to watch for free but I enjoy reading manga(bulids up my reading comprehension). And in my opinion it usually better than the anime. And like some of you pointed out earlier some really good mangas my never be animated. And sometimes the anime based on manga might end sooner or have a different story line at a point which totally veers off the orignal manga-ka's story and usually because of this it makes it not make as much sense as it does it the manga. I think that people who prefer anime over manga never really sat down and read one.
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ChangSauce
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:42 pm
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Probably Manga, because it creates a platform for even amateur artists to create something in their own vision. The genre always has the potential to create something groundbreaking and exciting.
Anime, however, is an a pretty sad state right now, "groundbreaking" could possibly be worst word to describe the state of it. A good 80% of shows have settled down into a formula.
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Marysia
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:11 am
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I voted 50-50. I think both have their benefits.
Pros of Manga:
-Generally more true to the creator's original vision
-Art is usually better
-Good practice for learning Japanese (for me at least)
Pros of Anime:
-COLORS!
-Voice acting
-Music
Basically, I find that anime provides a more "flashy" and immersive experience, but manga is fun to sit down and read.
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Kouji
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:38 pm
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darkhunter wrote: |
Do you feel that there are a lot more anime fan than manga fan? Why do you think English fan shy away from manga or feel like manga isn't for them? (I think a lot of American lean more towards movies and DVD as entertainment than reading). Finally why do more people in Japan prefer manga over anime? |
I think there are more English anime fans than there are manga fans because Americans in general have always been somewhat more laid back and I think most Americans prefer to watch TV as opposed to reading in general. Reading a book requires you to use your imagination to get your entertainment but watching TV gives you all the entertainment you want through visuals and audio without any sort of extra thinking.
I think there are more Japanese people who prefer to read manga over watching anime because the Japanese are a somewhat more productive people. The Japanese are always emphasizing how important studying is for junior high and high school kids and studying is supposed to always be the highest priority for any Japanese teen/young adult. Watching an episode of an anime can take up to half an hour of your free time that you could've used to study, but reading manga is quicker to do and you can do it while on the road, too. Plus, you have to remember that anime DVDs are much more expensive in Japan than in America, but manga is really cheap over there, so another reason why there's probably more Japanese manga fans than anime fans is because manga is more affordable. I mean, if you could only choose between buying a $2 graphic novel for five to six chapters or a $50 DVD for only two episodes per disc, but you needed to save up on money for something more important, which one would you choose to go with?
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daxomni
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:17 pm
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Stefnick wrote: | Anyway my mom doesn't trust buying stuff off the internet |
Really? Why? I've never had a problem myself nor do I know of anyone who ever had a problem.
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mistress_reebi
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:47 pm
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Generally the manga version is better then the anime version so I have to go with manga on this one.
[quote]and with prices at the Mt. Rushmore height that they're at right now, not too many people are reading them as of now.[quote]
$10 per manga isn't that much, it is more expensive if one collects each manga volume in the series compared to the whole series of the anime. An anime DVD is about $20-$40, so to me I'd rather spend $10 on the same thing as something that is $30.
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