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b-dragon
Joined: 21 Apr 2021
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:41 am
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Garden of Sinners is generally my first recommendation for any Nasuverse-curious viewer. It's available on Crunchyroll, is really good, and essentially serves as great litmus test for the other options.
Even as a fan of Fate/Extra (or perhaps especially as a fan of Fate/Extra,) Last Encore is awful. Poorly written, fundamentally flawed, and I think the Shaft directorial quirks only serve to highlight the flaws in the rest of the project.
One thing that these shows often struggle with is the depictions of their protagonist. Shirou (the primary but not only example,) is an interesting character- but a lot of that is in his more interior debates and conflicts that the VN demonstrates. The shows, understandably, cut a lot of that out for pacing purposes. This has the unfortunate side effect of making the characters seem much more shallow than they were originally presented as and making him come across quite differently in specific scenes.
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killjoy_the
Joined: 30 May 2015
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:45 am
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I feel like the best way to qualify DEEN's Fate/stay night is that it should be the first one you watch, but if you don't like it that's not an indication of how much you'd like any of the other Fates, and from there you can go just about anywhere really
As for Fate/Zero, one thing I like to add to people thinking of starting on it is that it's dry as hell for its starting like 10 episodes - much more so than any other entries. The characterizations start popping off eventually and it has an amazing second half, but if it pushes you off the franchise because of how loredump-heavy it feels, it's good to know it's not like that with the other entries
I'd also say Kaleid 2wei also has two other important aspects that were only mentioned in 3rei with Kid Gil and Bazett showing up, though it is at pretty much the tail end. I agree that there was no reason to make this an extended 20 episodes divided into two seasons, it just dillutes either aspect you might like the show for
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Nagatoka_Morito
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:46 am
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Fate/Extra fan here. Completely agree that Last Encore is a massive skip (though do go seek out the show's opening theme Bright Burning Shout on your preferred music platform, it's a banger). Grand Carnival was entirely worth watching for me personally just for a few seconds of Tamamo-no-Mae in animation (yes I'm that desperate).
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Stampeed Valkyrie
Joined: 10 Aug 2014
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:47 am
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If you want to get into Fate start with the basics.. there is reason why I started calling it Fate/Beating a dead horse. Outside of the 3 routes of the VN adaptation, you could venture into Fate/Zero but not required. Anything outside of that really starts getting into the proverbial weeds.
As for other Nasuverse options.. You can largely watch them in just about any order, some characters do carry over, but its not going to effect the experience not knowing who is linked to who.
As for the author not watching the Tsukihime anime... its not that bad, its not the VN but its worth it for the OP.. IMO.
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FilthyCasual
Joined: 01 Jun 2015
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:07 am
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I really can't recommend the DEENime when Ufotable obliterates it as badly as it does and the VN has an official, easily-accessible TL.
Quote: | The only relevant plot aspect is the introduction of Chloe/Kuro, Illya's “dark” twin. |
Also Bazett and the 8th Class Card. You can skip the filler episodes, but you'll be lost pretty badly if you jump straight to 3rei.
Quote: | a hideously debased version of Shinji Matō |
*Sakura. Shinji only shows up in Oath Under The Snow.
I personally found Prisma Phantasm pretty dull.
You've Lost Fujimaru Ritsuka is consistently funny, but meant for FGO players.
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cyberdraco
Joined: 30 Jun 2013
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:08 am
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The Studio Deen Fate/Stay Night anime is on Hidive and not Crunchyroll. I think the Studio Deen anime is a good place to start and going in release order(maybe skip the Studio Deen UBW movie since we have the Ufotable show). Also, I disagree with Last Encore and I think it's wroth your time.
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varmintx
Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: Covington, KY
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:42 am
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I think it's pretty funny that of this obscenely large list of shows, the only one I have seen,
Lunar Legend Tsukihime, is the only one the author hasn't (that they could see anyway). I don't remember anything about it, but I gave it a "Decent."
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KefkaesqueXIII
Joined: 30 Nov 2015
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:13 am
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Okay, so an English subbed version of Fate/Grand Order x Himuro no Tenchi: 7-nin no Saikyō Ijin-hen (localized as Himuro no Tench - These Seven Strongest Greats Arc) did exist and got shown as part of the YouTube Premiere of "Chaldea Broadcasting US Branch Vol. 8", but...
1) said stream was region locked to the US, Aus, and Canada (presumably for licensing reasons)
2) the stream vod was immediately privated to be replaced by an upload without the short
3) the short was never uploaded separately
As far as I can tell, they basically liscensed it for a single showing just to give context to why FGO players were about to receive a CE commemorating the short.
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Top Gun
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:25 am
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The Fateverse always seemed utterly impenetrable to me as an outsider, so this is incredibly useful. I'm not sure if it's something I'll ever try getting into, but I'll be sure to use this if I do.
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