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Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's (TV).

Besides, many of the characters in the show are still in high-school. While teens aged 15-17 are not what we normally consider to be children, they still aren't adults. So they are non-adults (children) playing a card game like it was Serious Business. Calling it a "children's card game" is accurate enough.

That's a load of bullshit that Yugioh is rated 13+. How come all the games based on the card game in Japan are rated CERO A instead of CERO B? That would be false advertising, because you wouldn't be able to go and buy a Yugioh game if you weren't 13, but you could get a game, which is basically the same thing in video game form. Also, that age rating in Japan is rather arbitrary, if you ask me.

Obviously kids don't play competitively. That doesn't mean they aren't still the primary audience. You don't need to play competitive to be into Yugioh. Hell, you don't even need to entirely understand the rules. Not if you're a little kid anyway.

It's enough for them to see the anime and want to cards. (Incidentally, this is why Magic doesn't need a cartoon to promote it. The primary audience, older teens and young adults, buy it for the game itself. Where as the primary audience for Yugioh buys the cards because they like the anime).

So yeah, don't try to BS someone who actually used to play the game. The last thing Konami cares about is "competitive" play. It's just an afterthought. The money maker is little kids and they don't care about that sort of thing.

Talk about arguing semantics.

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Talk about arguing semantics.

I'll put it in words you can understand.

It's a card game played by children. Calling it "a children's card game" is perfectly reasonable.

I'll put it in words you can understand.

It's a card game played by children. Calling it "a children's card game" is perfectly reasonable.

More than that, it was designed to be played by and marketed towards children. The fact that adults also play it doesn't change the fact that the primary audience is children.

I shouldn't have to explain why this logic is beyond flawed, but I will anyway:

"Porn sites are sites children go to. Calling them children's site is perfectly reasonable"

I assume despite all the evidence suggesting otherwise, you're not going to list any kind of citations and sources for this claim.

So like any other card game then, including Magic?

That's a lot of projecting on your part there, not to mention disrespectful to the players.

Just like it's projection on my part if I said only people who play Magic and those that read those Magic the Gathering books, or Magic doesn't have an anime because no one cares about Magic.

I know plenty of people who play Yu-Gi-Oh!, Duel Masters, and Vanguard and don't watch the anime for either of them, they're just big into playing card games.

Just like I know plenty of people who watch the anime of those shows but have never touched the actual card game, because they're big anime fans. I imagine you got the same relationship for Magic and book fans.

BS implies it's not true; like I said, take it up with Konami if you have a problem with it since it's their word.

I'm not sure why it's so hard or painful for someone to hear that isn't the case and it's also meant for people over the age of 12 and in their teenage/adult years.

I was talking about the characters themselves.

Sure, adults like Pegasus and Bandit Keith played the game. But the main heroes and many of the villains were teens still in high-school.

We've already been over this. In the English-speaking world, Yu-Gi-Oh! was a children's show and the cards were marketed to children.

Uh...no. I don't even know how you'd reach that conclusion.

What exactly is "their word". I don't see you citing any actual comments by them.

It's painful to listen to because it is not based in reality. It is all part of your little delusion about Japan stemming from your tiresome insecurities about your hobbies.

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We've already been over this. In the English-speaking world, Yu-Gi-Oh! was a children's show and the cards were marketed to children.

Who cares about the 4Kids dub or card game. This is a Japanese franchise above all else, so they get seniority and priority over what another country does with the franchise.

So you can't get into Magic and not play it competitively? Or know the rules much? Kids just can't mess around with it? Sounds fishy.

I already did. The actual age ranking on the card game boosters and boxes themselves. "Because I say so" is not a valid proof to say that the written target audience for a game are not actually the target audience.

The only insecurities I see is someone who is probably upset that Yu-Gi-Oh has overshadowed their own preferred card game, and has to find some way to dismiss it with silly excuses like "Oh, just dumb little kids play that game, not REAL card game fans". It's fine if you prefer Magic or whatever, but that's a very petty thing to do out of spite.

I didn't realize 5D's was poorly received--the people I know IRL who watched it liked it a lot better than GX. Of course, I can't say much since I'm not really a fan so much as someone who keeps tabs on the new series because I loved Yu-gi-oh so much as a kid, but I'm also curious to know why people apparently disliked it. I've only seen a few episodes, but it seemed interesting and I liked what I saw of Yusei, and I plan on watching more eventually.

BonusStage, I don't think this forum is the best place for a Yu-Gi-Oh thread. I mean, so far I'm the only one who actually discussed the actual series itself and not just make a silly, misinformed Abridged joke about the subject. It becomes pretty clear who hasn't actually seen the series in these kinds of discussions.