Forum - View topicHellsing OAV! Godly or Overhyped?
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hatchetman696
Posts: 1 Location: Lansing, MI |
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So what is your oppinion on whats to come?
How do you think they will do this, continue off the last series or redo it in they manga form? Let the people know. Me personally GODLY they better not mess this up, I will stab the kitten. |
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Steventheeunuch
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It's a complete restart. Thank you Kouta and anyone involved so we don't have to pick up that horrible shit that Gonzo pumped out.
It should be good. Wild Geese are working closely to Hirano and the Manga, and the budget and production values look fairly impressive. Of course, nothing can really be said so far since all we have are a handfull of trailers. Of course, if you never liked the original comic, it's kinda doubtful you'll get into this OAV. |
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TF
 Posts: 357 Location: Belgium |
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i personnally think it will be overhyped, the expectations for this OVA will probably be so high that it will be virtually impossible to make those come true
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Iemander
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Sigh fanboys 
I think it depends on how serious they are on the adaption. The original Hellsing anime was so good because it took alot of liberties on the script and concentrated on presentation rather than content. If this OAV is a restart, I consider that a pretty big mistake, why is this necessairy? We already have 13 episodes of animation, why do we need another 13 for the same content? Doesn't make any sense to me, especially considering that these 13 were exceptionally well recieved. This doesn't bide well at all, I agree with the post above, expectations will run too high. |
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Neclord516
 Posts: 65 Location: Williamsport, PA |
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Im hoping that the OVA lives up to the hype but there is that chance that it gets too overhyped and falls on it's face. I personally love the Hellsing TV series so I'm hoping they get this right.
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Ez Barzam
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Overhyped.
A proposed second OAV of Hellsing has been in limbo for a long time, and things that stay in "development hell" for too long tend to be of subpar calibur. I'm a huge fan of the manga, and was reasonably pleased with the first season. I'm hoping for something better, but my gut is telling me otherwise. 
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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WHat are you on about? People (including the guy who, you know, wrote the manga) didn't like the first series because it strayed so far from the original manga story which was about a million times better than what they came up with for the TV show. This new version will have only 2 or 3 episodes of plot we've seen before, and the rest will be the Millennium Nazi arc that everyone's dying to see animated (myself included). Also, "expectations" are the fault of the person, not the show. |
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Kruszer
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I believe the point was that something doesn't necessarily have to follow the original source material to be good, and I would agree with him. I like the series and I also like the manga. I think it's was too early at this point to be speculating on how good Untimate will be given all we've got to go on so far is a short little trailer.
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cardcaptormanda
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The thing is...I wonder if you've read the manga. There is no way they could pick up where the anime left off, because around episode 6 or 7 (even a bit before that), it goes off on a completely different direction from the manga. It would be nearly impossible for the new OVA to follow the manga storyline without starting over, because the TV series messed with it too much. It introduced new villains that would make little to no sense in the manga storyline...not that they made a whole lot of sense in the TV series either. The Wild Geese were not introduced in the TV series after the Valentine Brothers' attack, as they should have been. In the manga, there was no Ferguson, but in the anime, his death affected Seras very strongly. It would seem odd that she wasn't grieving when they began the new animation. They would have to portray her grieving, which might mess things up later on. Then, there was Walter's helicopter crash. He was obviously quite injured. In the new animation, if they wanted to follow the manga, he would have to not be injured. Integra had injuries as well, all of which she does not have in the manga. I guess what I'm saying is, the TV series changed so much, that it would be impossible to follow the manga's storyline at all without completely starting over and doing everything the right way from the start. As someone else already said, the new OVA is only going to need 3-4 episodes tops to go over what little manga content the TV series had. The rest will have never before been animated. And just for the record, there’s nothing wrong with fanboys. It is not wrong to care about something that’s important to you. Now to answer the question that was initially asked. I think, as much as I would like to say this new OVA will be flawless, that there will be some problems here and there. But I think it will be good, and most certainly better than the TV series. You can't go wrong with Pip, and most of Millennium is interesting, too. I'm definitely excited. Last edited by cardcaptormanda on Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:37 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Iemander
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Well said, that's exactly what I meant. And with "expectations", I meant that people are expecting a follow up to the Helsing animation series, something this OAV, by the looks of it, will be a hard thing to topple. Of course, we'll see by the end of it how things turn up, but being a fan of the TV series, I'm not getting my hopes up too high. |
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Iemander
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Just getting annoyed with all the "OMG THE ANIME SUXORZ" crap I'm hearing about Hellsing. I'm not against the manga either, but this "overprotective" thing is just annoying. And I've read a good part of the manga, I know there's alot left out etc. However, this restart sugests just that, a total restart of everything the TV series laid out. I'm sure with some decent planning, they could've worked something out instead of losing content. |
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Advent_Nebula
Posts: 932 Location: Colorado |
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It will only be 6 episodes of re-animation. 7 was to liberal to the Manga, and 8-13 never happened in the Manga. |
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ryokoalways
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Id go with overhyped cause I read the manga and it is not that impressive at all. Berserk does better in all aspects in my opinion.
And the TV series' storyline was so fragmented it was basically meaningless. |
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Steventheeunuch
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The flaw with your argument there is that besides gore, the Berserk and Hellsing comic series have completely different tones, themes and presentations. Hellsing is a fun, somewhat insane romp of an action/horror series, whereas Berserk is a fairly heavy and dramatic dark fantasy epic with around four times as much content as Hellsing.
The episodes will be 35 minutes each, so I would be suprised and somewhat appauled if they took that long.
Well it's not exactly like people are wrong about it. It did stray fairly far from the Manga, misinterpreted a lot (the tone and attitude, which wasn't BAD, it just wasn't very Hellsing), added things that didn't need to be added (Fergeson, Incognito), changed various things (Making Seras an annoying emo whingebag), had insanely inconsistient animation, and one of the stupid, half baked vllians ever. It's just people are afraid to realise that what they actually like is crap. This isn't really a bad thing per se, but you need to actually realise where you stand.
A lot of people would rather they not keep anything even resembling Incognito and the arkward mess of a storyline Gonzo laid out.
Something is not good if it fucks around the script simply to try and look pretty. It's presentation usually was fairly flawed (bad direction and musical timing, horribly shitty animation from the Valentine Brother's appearance, etc) and it's only redeeming feature was the music and Alucard wiping Incognito's ass all over London. |
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coolerimmortal
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I'm looking forward to it. There is one big thing I'm worried about, though. They're not using the same style of music as the first anime series did. Instead it's instrumental stuff. I'm probably in the minority here, but regardless of its faults, Hellsing the anime had a soundtrack that was perfect for the material. It's one of my favorite anime soundtracks. I don't like the idea of using a different style of music.
How often will the episodes be released? I don't want to have to put up with 6 months of material that has already been animated. If I recall correctly, until the Valentines, the anime followed the manga closely. They should have started the Ultimate OAV after the Valentines. If they had to, they could have gone back and reanimated that arc later. |
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